Dan & Phil Part 21: Say Howdy to InDepthBants

[uglyamerican]

Ya, for all the people who complain about Dan "not working hard" I disagree - he's literally working himself sick. D&P have a lot going on this year, it's just not all in YouTube videos. They are in the process of broadening their appeal into different forms of media, and they are succeeding at it. Sooner or later, the mass of 12-17 year olds (or the upcoming 12-17 demo) who make up most of their market will find them too "old" to be #relateable, and they need to gain experience, develop skills and make contacts for that inevitability.

Yeah but he ain't working on DINOF and for that channel he doesn't deserve 6M rn imo.

Ya, but neither you or I get a say in other people's decisions to subscribe or not. Clearly Dan's posting frequency is good enough to continue gaining subscribers.

[anathema]

It's always been weird to me how differently the phandom treats Phil compared to Dan. It's like, if you like Phil and not Dan, nobody cares. But if you like Dan and not Phil, you get people saying "but how could you NOT like Phil?!". I suppose it stems from the fact Phil has less subscribers. I hate it when people make a big fuss over their difference subscriber counts, though. I think the main reason Dan has more than Phil is just that Dan's content appeals to a wider audience (he's Mr. Relatable™).

Ya, for all the people who complain about Dan "not working hard" I disagree - he's literally working himself sick. D&P have a lot going on this year, it's just not all in YouTube videos. They are in the process of broadening their appeal into different forms of media, and they are succeeding at it. Sooner or later, the mass of 12-17 year olds (or the upcoming 12-17 demo) who make up most of their market will find them too "old" to be #relateable, and they need to gain experience, develop skills and make contacts for that inevitability.

I agree. D&P are working hard, just not on YouTube. All of this makes me think of this vyou answer (and how his answer might be slightly different now):

"YouTube is still my number one priority, as it is mostly what pays for me to rent my apartment."
"And it's my thing. It's my thing"

I feel like YouTube is no longer his (or Phil's) number one priority. YouTube kinda feels like a side thing now. I know they've been busy, but I still feel like they could do (/could've done) a better job (if not now when they're on tour, at least in the middle of legs, especially inbetween the UK and the US) at uploading. I wonder when YT became more of a side thing, and I suppose it's when other things started to give them more money

[uglyamerican]

I feel like YouTube is no longer his (or Phil's) number one priority. YouTube kinda feels like a side thing now. I know they've been busy, but I still feel like they could do (/could've done) a better job (if not now when they're on tour, at least in the middle of legs, especially inbetween the UK and the US) at uploading. I wonder when YT became more of a side thing, and I suppose it's when other things started to give them more money

IDK, I think they've explained what they are doing: designing / gathering material for another book while performing the US tour, weeks of editing the UK/US tour doc and making of piece, and in between those jobs, they produced some videos for YouTube. I still get the impression that people don't understand how time consuming all these tasks really are... Do you honestly think that Dan sits on his ass playing GW2 all day? (don't answer that question...)

[bluewho]

I feel like YouTube is no longer his (or Phil's) number one priority. YouTube kinda feels like a side thing now. I know they've been busy, but I still feel like they could do (/could've done) a better job (if not now when they're on tour, at least in the middle of legs, especially inbetween the UK and the US) at uploading. I wonder when YT became more of a side thing, and I suppose it's when other things started to give them more money

IDK, I think they've explained what they are doing: designing / gathering material for another book while performing the US tour, weeks of editing the UK/US tour doc and making of piece, and in between those jobs, they produced some videos for YouTube. I still get the impression that people don't understand how time consuming all these tasks really are... Do you honestly think that Dan sits on his ass playing GW2 all day? (don't answer that question...)

Yes I agree, they both work so hard. The reason their YouTube uploading is slow is because they are always busy with other projects - which all produce content which we get to see, so in a way, what are we complaining about

Meanwhile Phil is living the good life, sipping Ribena in his nice ass London flat with a Macbook on his laptop and all his money in the bank because he never spends it.

Exactly, Phil's killing it he doesn't need the phandom's pity

It's always been weird to me how differently the phandom treats Phil compared to Dan. It's like, if you like Phil and not Dan, nobody cares. But if you like Dan and not Phil, you get people saying "but how could you NOT like Phil?!". I suppose it stems from the fact Phil has less subscribers. I hate it when people make a big fuss over their difference subscriber counts, though. I think the main reason Dan has more than Phil is just that Dan's content appeals to a wider audience (he's Mr. Relatable™).

Yep, yep, all good points, yep.

Thanks @felucca for the compendium of tweets. I have been a disgusting trash can these last days and it's amazing (and slightly frightening) how much your name comes up in the dark depths of the deppy blogosphere

Yes, thank you felucca senpai for sharing your endless knowledge with us

[wtfamidoinghere]

I feel like YouTube is no longer his (or Phil's) number one priority. YouTube kinda feels like a side thing now. I know they've been busy, but I still feel like they could do (/could've done) a better job (if not now when they're on tour, at least in the middle of legs, especially inbetween the UK and the US) at uploading. I wonder when YT became more of a side thing, and I suppose it's when other things started to give them more money

I've said this before, but i believe that they group the book/tour/tour-recording/documentary/picturebook (wow) in with youtube. That's why they said at the end of the weekly radio show that they wanted to concentrate more on youtube instead of the radio. They did. Just not on making videos.

And i have opinions on whether or not he deserves his 6 Million subs.
I understand the sentiment that hard work should be rewarded and half assed work shouldn't, but at the same time i subconsciously roll my eyes everytime i hear "they don't deserve it!".
If i get a promotion because i'm better at my job than my colleague who works harder, does that mean i don't deserve my promotion?
He hit 6 Million subs, so obviously he's doing his job well enough to get 6 Million subs. Why wouldn't he deserve it? Because you perceive his content not "good" enough?
What even is a good youtube video? Surely that's subjective? I agree that he's not producing his best work right now, but his new subs apparently like it.
A good example of this subjectivity is daily vlogs i think. When you read forums like this or GG, everybody wants vloggers to go out and film interesting things and when they just stay in and talk to their cameras, it's considered a bad vlog (I would agree with this), but when you look at some twitter polls done by youtubers, you see that the majority of their subscribers actually want "homely vlogs" or challenges/tags. Who are we to say their taste is wrong?

Also, i don't think you can seperate youtube and his sideprojects and say he doesn't deserve success on his channel, because he's not working on it. When he's working on his sideprojects, that also has an effect on his subscriber count.

[anathema]

I feel like YouTube is no longer his (or Phil's) number one priority. YouTube kinda feels like a side thing now. I know they've been busy, but I still feel like they could do (/could've done) a better job (if not now when they're on tour, at least in the middle of legs, especially inbetween the UK and the US) at uploading. I wonder when YT became more of a side thing, and I suppose it's when other things started to give them more money

IDK, I think they've explained what they are doing: designing / gathering material for another book while performing the US tour, weeks of editing the UK/US tour doc and making of piece, and in between those jobs, they produced some videos for YouTube. I still get the impression that people don't understand how time consuming all these tasks really are... Do you honestly think that Dan sits on his ass playing GW2 all day? (don't answer that question...)

When I said that YouTube feels like a side thing, I just meant that, right now, they're focusing on other things more than their YT channels. I'm assuming that once the tour is over they'll start to produce videos more regularly (as there's no reason as to why they shouldn't). I mean, I'm not mad that they're not uploading a lot right now or anything like that, because there's nothing to be angry about. I guess I just wish that they would have spent more time talking about why they haven't been making a lot of videos lately? I really have no reason to think that, because I understand why they haven't been uploading a lot, and that's what matters. But for some reason I just feel like it would have been better for them to just sit down and make a one-minute video explaining why they won't be uploading a lot (I feel like I really didn't do a good job at explaining this, but I really don't think there's a better way, because my thoughts don't make sense to me either, lmao.)

I've said this before, but i believe that they group the book/tour/tour-recording/documentary/picturebook (wow) in with youtube. That's why they said at the end of the weekly radio show that they wanted to concentrate more on youtube instead of the radio. They did. Just not on making videos.

Personally, I don't group the book/tour and everything that comes along with those into YouTube in the way they do, but that could be just me.

[teamug]

re:"Who deserves subscribers"
Why is Dan and/or Phil being blamed for gaining new subs. Shouldn't the 'blame' for the new subs be put on the people subscribing.

Unless it's in a glass of something very alchoholic, I don't want weird plastic animals in my drink, just wondering how hygienic it all is.

[Philena]

re:"Who deserves subscribers"
Why is Dan and/or Phil being blamed for gaining new subs. Shouldn't the 'blame' for the new subs be put on the people subscribing.

Unless it's in a glass of something very alchoholic, I don't want weird plastic animals in my drink, just wondering how hygienic it all is.

ica with both of your points

[DryCereal]

re:"Who deserves subscribers"
Why is Dan and/or Phil being blamed for gaining new subs. Shouldn't the 'blame' for the new subs be put on the people subscribing.

Unless it's in a glass of something very alchoholic, I don't want weird plastic animals in my drink, just wondering how hygienic it all is.

ica with both of your points

If he's managed to stack four of them neatly, it wasn't nearly alcoholic enough!

[Lurktacularr]

Wayyyy too many fantastic, well-articulated opinions on all this to quote every one but my thoughts in summary:

- I agree Dan doesn't deserve 6m subs. His lack of content is absolutely shocking, and besides a couple of recent ones the quality hasn't been great either. Like, for a 'reacting to my baby videos' to be your one video for a month is bullshit to me. Well, not if you're a daily/weekly uploader, and not if you're not taking your channel that seriously, but if you still claim it to be your main 'thing' and you've got 5/6m subs... fuck off.

- I agree youtube has become a side thing for them. If they just admitted that (though idk how - the phandom would melt) then it would explain my point above and make their uploading schedules less frustrating because at least they were honest about it. I get it, you're not sat on your arses all day, you're busy with other shit. The bour has become their main focus and to me that is so backwards. I just don't see how you can allow your main platform to suffer so badly at the expense of a huge project which in and of itself has spawned from your main platform. I don't mean to say they shouldn't have done the Bour, but I think a LOT more planning should have gone into ensuring their channels didn't gather so much dust. Like if it was just the UK tour, a 3 month thing and they let it slip for a bit, then fine. But we're getting on for a year now and we're not even done yet. Smacks of lack of consideration, laziness and presumption.

- I'm undecided on whether Phil deserves as many subscribers as he has. He has less than Dan and uploads more regularly (although that isn't saying much) so my feelings are less strong on it. I guess you can't really determine how many subs someone 'deserves' cos what does that even mean? Based on what? All I can go off is a purely subjective gut response and its less strong for Phil than Dan. And this is coming from an OG Dangirl. I still love him but he's been so disappointing this last year. They both have been really, but Dan's been taking the piss.

Wow I clearly had more thoughts on this than I realised. I've just been so underwhelmed by them for so long.

I sincerely hope that when the tour ends they remember where their priorities lie. If that isn't youtube then fine. Well, I'd be but at least it wouldn't be this backward-ass shit we're dealing with right now.

I'm hanging on by a thread at this point, cos they've been taking the piss for so long. Not that they'd give a shit about one salty individual like me. But I don't think I'm the only one, and maybe if people started dropping away in their frustrated thousands they'd get the wake up call they seem to need.

edit teamug completely take your point, but I don't think there's anyone to 'blame', its just a kind of fucked up situation. While they continue to rake in subs whilst being (in my opinion) pretty presumptuous in neglecting their channels and continue to profit from a project based on those channels' popularities, imma be salty about it

[vincentian]

I agree that opinions on "deserves/doesn't deserve the current amount of subs" are mostly subjective. But I disagree with cheering not even the existence of content (not mentioning quality) but the (apparent) effort that was put into the time-consuming behind-the scenes work, the result of which we either don’t get to see or is very short-lived (a show, tour video, book).

My main problem with content for both Dan and Phil is that I’m forever expecting content that’s good not just because it’s Dan and Phil (as much as I love them). Like, good not just because we missed them after the content drought, because of ~phan feels~ or because they looked good in new outfits/went out. But because of some well-written comedy, intelligent jokes, creative ideas, them being pros at hosting an event - s o m e t h i n g other than just euphoria to see their faces. I think radio was one of the last outlets where they got to do it, I so hope they'll come back on radio in some form soon.

[majitzu]

The Phil hashtag on Twitter was made as a joke. It was Phandom humour. Just like Dan's tweet is full of irony or whatever. It was a way of saying "Dan what? Who is Dan?" It was suppose to be fun, and I don't think people was sad about Phil not having the same milestone.

Dan and Phil have both been doing a kind of poorly work with their youtube channel but you can't call them lazy when they have done a 3 month tour, a book, 2 documentarys, another tour, the Britts and radio show at the beggining of the year, and who knows what other project in between.

[anathema]

- I agree youtube has become a side thing for them. If they just admitted that (though idk how - the phandom would melt) then it would explain my point above and make their uploading schedules less frustrating because at least they were honest about it. I get it, you're not sat on your arses all day, you're busy with other shit. The bour has become their main focus and to me that is so backwards. I just don't see how you can allow your main platform to suffer so badly at the expense of a huge project which in and of itself has spawned from your main platform. I don't mean to say they shouldn't have done the Bour, but I think a LOT more planning should have gone into ensuring their channels didn't gather so much dust. Like if it was just the UK tour, a 3 month thing and they let it slip for a bit, then fine. But we're getting on for a year now and we're not even done yet. Smacks of lack of consideration, laziness and presumption.

Okay, you definitely explained this way better than I did They knew they were going to be busy, so they should have made videos in advance so they could upload them while on tour. I can understand why TABINOF and the tour might've been a bigger priority than their main channels (I don't agree with how much bigger it was, though), but I'm sure if you asked them why they hardly uploaded in-between the US and AUS tour they would say it was because of the photobook. And to me that's ridiculous. They're going to value laying out a goddamn book a photos over what they claim to be is their main job? Not sure I would call it being lazy, but I do question how they chose what their top priority is going to be, and how much they're going to neglect everything else. (And though the phandom would have a freak-out, they should've just sucked it up and said "hey, guess what, we're basically going to be uploading nothing until all of this bour shit is over".)

[swofro]

Offtopic from the current serious topic / discussion, but I just found this and I don't know whether to feel amuse or cringe.

Trigger Warning :

we the unicorn

http://www.wetheunicorns.com/news/phand ... -dan-phil/

I didn't realise that all of this happened in a weekend, and I think this is the kind of thing that makes people distance themselves from the phandom because (I don't wanna offend anybody but) for me, it's kinda cringy tbh. But I also can't help but to be amused that phandom has the power to make all of this hashtags trending

Also, anyone knows what is that rumoured tweet that Deppy fav and then unfavourited in #parentphan?

[trashqueen]

If it's any consolation, deep in the night i was looking for their companies' public financial reports and they are killing it

hi hello i am interested and i want to know more

[Ticia]

If it's any consolation, deep in the night i was looking for their companies' public financial reports and they are killing it

hi hello i am interested and i want to know more

I have found Dan's and he can indeed afford the fugly hoodie. I don't know if I should link it directly here though?

Offtopic from the current serious topic / discussion, but I just found this and I don't know whether to feel amuse or cringe.

Trigger Warning :

we the unicorn

http://www.wetheunicorns.com/news/phand ... -dan-phil/

I didn't realise that all of this happened in a weekend, and I think this is the kind of thing that makes people distance themselves from the phandom because (I don't wanna offend anybody but) for me, it's kinda cringy tbh. But I also can't help but to be amused that phandom has the power to make all of this hashtags trending

Also, anyone knows what is that rumoured tweet that Deppy fav and then unfavourited in #parentphan?

I only saw two of them being trending, but...yeah

[Lurktacularr]

If it's any consolation, deep in the night i was looking for their companies' public financial reports and they are killing it

hi hello i am interested and i want to know more

I have found Dan's and he can indeed afford the fugly hoodie. I don't know if I should link it directly here though?

Not sure what the forum rules are on this but surely as its publicly available info its ok? Can a mod confirm?

If not, if you guys wouldn't mind PM'ing me your tea, I'd love you forever

[bluewho]

Offtopic from the current serious topic / discussion, but I just found this and I don't know whether to feel amuse or cringe.

Trigger Warning :

we the unicorn

http://www.wetheunicorns.com/news/phand ... -dan-phil/

I didn't realise that all of this happened in a weekend, and I think this is the kind of thing that makes people distance themselves from the phandom because (I don't wanna offend anybody but) for me, it's kinda cringy tbh. But I also can't help but to be amused that phandom has the power to make all of this hashtags trending

Also, anyone knows what is that rumoured tweet that Deppy fav and then unfavourited in #parentphan?

Offtopic:
Feel amused, this shit was hilarious in my humble opinion. But then again I do have an over the top sense of humor. But I think the order may be out. It was #DAPGO, #ParentPhan (out of nowhere), then as a response to how cringe and out of the blue #ParentPhan was and how cringe everyone felt about finding it adorable, #PhandomIsGoingToJailParty, then the others were just for kicks to kind of poke fun of the fact that the phandom got so many random things trending. The others were all stuff like 'I'm so confused but I'm still tweeting #DanHowellIsOverParty #PhilLesterOurSaviourAfterParty'.

But, yes of course, wetheunicorns, it was just those crazy hysterical preteen phangirls at it again

Edit: I wondered at the time to what extent #PhandomIsGoingToJailParty was a visible manifestation of the same kind of guilt often expressed on here over speculation/fanfiction writing etc. Since it seemed to come about in response to how people were feeling about speculative fictitious #ParentPhan tweets. It was also accompanied by quite damning language like 'demon phannie' etc. But this is all probably reading too much into things. I mean, God knows hysterical preteen crazy phangirls cannot be capable of that kind of self-reflection, right wetheunicorns?

[spider]

Why are people judging if Dan 'deserves' 6 mil subs based on his past months of work? Did you forget all of his videos from the past almost 7 years? 6 mil subs didn't come from no where. His audience has been building for years and he put enough work in before so it will keep growing even during slow times like this year. It's not saying 'Dan works so hard for us. Dan Howell defense squad'. It's saying even with a not so good upload schedule he put enough good work in many years and the 6 mil subs came from that.

The Phil trend is just phandom humor. Deppy or at least Dan definitely thought it was funny. How many times has he said he likes his audience's humor?

A lot of new names on IDB recently. Always nice to have fresh blood.

If it's any consolation, deep in the night i was looking for their companies' public financial reports and they are killing it

Interested.

[Catallena]

I feel like YouTube is no longer his (or Phil's) number one priority. YouTube kinda feels like a side thing now. I know they've been busy, but I still feel like they could do (/could've done) a better job (if not now when they're on tour, at least in the middle of legs, especially inbetween the UK and the US) at uploading. I wonder when YT became more of a side thing, and I suppose it's when other things started to give them more money

IDK, I think they've explained what they are doing: designing / gathering material for another book while performing the US tour, weeks of editing the UK/US tour doc and making of piece, and in between those jobs, they produced some videos for YouTube. I still get the impression that people don't understand how time consuming all these tasks really are... Do you honestly think that Dan sits on his ass playing GW2 all day? (don't answer that question...)

Yes I agree, they both work so hard. The reason their YouTube uploading is slow is because they are always busy with other projects - which all produce content which we get to see, so in a way, what are we complaining about

No one is saying they don't work hard though. No one is saying that what they do for all their side projects isn't time consuming. We all know they're exhausted (though we can blame their awful time management skills for that too). It's the time and effort spent on DINOF that matters here, and mostly the quality/quantity balance of the content on that channel. Just looking at that, I don't think DINOF should be at 6M rn and Phil doesn't belong at the 4M the phandom desperately wants to get him. Subscriber milestones are 'rewards' for the work you do on YouTube, not whatever the fuck you get up to outside of that. Putting TABINOF/TATINOF under the same tab as YouTube is just reaching.

The largest part of those 6M subs (or even the 3M who bother to watch) does not give a flying shit about books and tours. Most are casual subscribers who will never consume that content. Most do not care enough to actually spend money on Dan and Phil. Even more dedicated fans might not have the money to spend on a book, let alone two. Most people will never see TATINOF live, and many do not have the money for YouTube Red (or a creditcard which is required for YouTube Red). In the end, still only a minority of all those people will ever see the content that D&P dropped everything else for. So stating that we'll all get to see their other content is just... no.

I understand the sentiment that hard work should be rewarded and half assed work shouldn't, but at the same time i subconsciously roll my eyes everytime i hear "they don't deserve it!".
If i get a promotion because i'm better at my job than my colleague who works harder, does that mean i don't deserve my promotion?

The thing is the 'job' that D&P are better at than their peers is definitely not making videos. The 'job' (or more accurately, part of the job) they're good at is maintaining popularity with an insanely dedicated fandom while putting in minimum effort. They managed to basically disappear from the internet for two months in order to sell people another book and they did it without much backlash. Their videos are subpar at best, and Dan lost his ~originality~ excuse when he started making people wait for shit like him reacting to old pics. The same shit everyone else is doing, except a month later when the hype already died down.

Also, i don't think you can seperate youtube and his sideprojects and say he doesn't deserve success on his channel, because he's not working on it. When he's working on his sideprojects, that also has an effect on his subscriber count.

How would a book and tour made for existing hardcore fans have any effect on their sub counts? There's a reason Dan got to 6M only just now while Caspar and Joe, who make pretty crap content but are definitely on top of their game and got to 5M at the same time as Dan, have surpassed that number by far already. The only side projects that could influence their numbers would be the radio and stuff like The Brits and even then it's pretty minor. I think Tomska once mentioned that his Internet Takeover slot had no effect on his numbers. Sure D&P did radio far more and for a lot longer, but it's still pretty telling.

re:"Who deserves subscribers"
Why is Dan and/or Phil being blamed for gaining new subs. Shouldn't the 'blame' for the new subs be put on the people subscribing.

I thought that I wouldn't have to spell that out for everyone and that that was pretty obvious but ok.

Lurktacularr Your post

[missemma]

Not sure what the forum rules are on this but surely as its publicly available info its ok? Can a mod confirm?

if the information is public that is fine, however we would encourage screenshots of the information with the website names removed as there could be a chance their address or other personal information relating to them or others close to them could be easily accessible. If their address or anything personal to them is linked or provided them this will result in a warning. Hope that helps.

Why are people judging if Dan 'deserves' 6 mil subs based on his past months of work? Did you forget all of his videos from the past almost 7 years? 6 mil subs didn't come from no where. His audience has been building for years and he put enough work in before so it will keep growing even during slow times like this year. It's not saying 'Dan works so hard for us. Dan Howell defense squad'. It's saying even with a not so good upload schedule he put enough good work in many years and the 6 mil subs came from that

Exactly my views, not gonna rehash what you've said so perfectly.

About the Phil hashtag, I personally didn't get it, do we always have to try and praise Phil when Dan hits a milestone? Not really, he's a big boy and can probably take Dan hitting 6,000,000 like an adult!

[Lurktacularr]

Why are people judging if Dan 'deserves' 6 mil subs based on his past months of work? Did you forget all of his videos from the past almost 7 years? 6 mil subs didn't come from no where. His audience has been building for years and he put enough work in before so it will keep growing even during slow times like this year. It's not saying 'Dan works so hard for us. Dan Howell defense squad'. It's saying even with a not so good upload schedule he put enough good work in many years and the 6 mil subs came from that.

I don't disagree at all and I totally respect the years its taken to get to this point for him. Hell, I was around for quite a few of these so I totally get that it hasn't come over night.

Disclaimer: gonna use the 'deserved' term ahead frequently and appreciate its a strange concept because who decides who deserves what? I mean it in a sense of a very very vague notion of levels of effort, quality of content and frequency of uploads, relative to how many subscribers a creator has.

My point was more, at this moment in time (lbr for the past year) that channel doesn't deserve 6m subs in my mind. Go back 2 year and did 2014 DINOF deserve its subcribers? Yeah, I think so. He didn't have 6m then and I'd say he deserved it more then than now.

And yeah keeping that level of loyalty has for sure come from his and Phil's longevity and I respect that (I mean, I'm still here so I get it) but I feel like they're taking advantage of it

tl;dr i'm bitter AF about them neglecting their channels

Catallena and your last two my mate

missemma thanks for clarifying

[Kathrynxjane]

If it's any consolation, deep in the night i was looking for their companies' public financial reports and they are killing it

hi hello i am interested and i want to know more

I have found Dan's and he can indeed afford the fugly hoodie. I don't know if I should link it directly here though?

Not sure what the forum rules are on this but surely as its publicly available info its ok? Can a mod confirm?

If not, if you guys wouldn't mind PM'ing me your tea, I'd love you forever

Yeah they were due 31/07. I was looking at them yesterday. Couldn't believe how much they had in the bank each it only went up to October last year so I dread to think how much profit they are going to be showing this year!

The problem is that it is public knowledge and if you know where to look, it is easy to find. But it does say what their address on other forms is so I wouldn't be comfortable posting it on a public forum anyway.

[Lurktacularr]

If it's any consolation, deep in the night i was looking for their companies' public financial reports and they are killing it

hi hello i am interested and i want to know more

I have found Dan's and he can indeed afford the fugly hoodie. I don't know if I should link it directly here though?

Not sure what the forum rules are on this but surely as its publicly available info its ok? Can a mod confirm?

If not, if you guys wouldn't mind PM'ing me your tea, I'd love you forever

Yeah they were due 31/07. I was looking at them yesterday. Couldn't believe how much they had in the bank each it only went up to October last year so I dread to think how much profit they are going to be showing this year!

The problem is that it is public knowledge and if you know where to look, it is easy to find. But it does say what their address on other forms is so I wouldn't be comfortable posting it on a public forum anyway.

This is where I hang my head in shame cos we're both accountants so you know I'm just being lazy

Would you mind PM'ing me the right co names so I can have a nosey tomorrow?

[majitzu]

Then just type here the information, come on share the info! Hahhaha