Dan & Phil Part 24: I got moist for you, Phil

Philena · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:11 pm

Thanks for linking thise vids, human. I actually really like Daniel J. Layton. I think he is clever, well-spoken, and humorous in a quite open and honest way. After watching deppy for an extended period of time, I like to go watch other vloggers or read other blogs from people who have maybe less to lose (I'm not sure how else to state what I mean) when speaking to their audience. It's always a breath of fresh air for me.

melon lord · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:11 pm

Loser who looks like a meerkat wrote:
(2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."

Well excuse me then, if you don't like to read then how can you be expected to at least appreciate fiction in general, let alone smutty fanfiction?

Loser who looks like a meerkat wrote: (2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."

"Please agree with me and affirm my own thoughts so I don't feel so bad about disliking someone!!! My own ego depends on this! I know it literally doesn't matter for myself or them but I want to publically show my distaste to popular Youtuber so I can feel better about myself!"

Loser who looks like a meerkat wrote: (2:09:58) "All I'll say is I don't get to talk to Phil no more. Ahm. Used to talk to him at conventions and now I don't 'cause... 'cause I don't get to. It's not a thing I'm allowed to do."

You are a grown as fuck man who can discuss and solve this shit in private with THE ACTUAL PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT but noooo I'll bitch about it on stream to seem like a boohoo victim and get sympathy points to redeem and the sympathy store.

corn flakes · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:23 pm

melon lord wrote:
Loser who looks like a meerkat wrote:
(2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."
Well excuse me then, if you don't like to read then how can you be expected to at least appreciate fiction in general, let alone smutty fanfiction?

Loser who looks like a meerkat wrote: (2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."
"Please agree with me and affirm my own thoughts so I don't feel so bad about disliking someone!!! My own ego depends on this! I know it literally doesn't matter for myself or them but I want to publically show my distaste to popular Youtuber so I can feel better about myself!"

Loser who looks like a meerkat wrote: (2:09:58) "All I'll say is I don't get to talk to Phil no more. Ahm. Used to talk to him at conventions and now I don't 'cause... 'cause I don't get to. It's not a thing I'm allowed to do."
You are a grown as fuck man who can discuss and solve this shit in private with THE ACTUAL PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT but noooo I'll bitch about it on stream to seem like a boohoo victim and get sympathy points to redeem and the sympathy store.

I bit more strong of what I would say but it seems more like someone that had an argument with dan, fair enough as it's normal to not get along with everyone,...but if Phil isn't allowed to talk to him there's something else, a grown up stubborn man like Phil decided to it by himself. Now he should ask himself why?

human thanks for the videos!

Late but:
sims: it was a little dull for me, I know that they were probably super aware of the phandom, still it's a missed chance to do a great video imo

Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:24 pm

alittledizzy wrote:So yesterday Twitch streamer/old school youtuber MattG apparently had a go at Dan and Phil (mostly Dan) during a gaming stream.

(ty jesp!)

For anyone that doesn't want to watch, I typed it out under the spoiler tag.

full stream link

(2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."

(2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."

(2:09:58) "All I'll say is I don't get to talk to Phil no more. Ahm. Used to talk to him at conventions and now I don't 'cause... 'cause I don't get to. It's not a thing I'm allowed to do."

Ooh.. I find him referring to Dan as an 'asshole' very interesting. Personally, I think if you're a youtuber at the cons and stuff you need to have a very precise way of approaching them if you do at all. I'm guessing those who don't really know the duo (or i just dan) see him as a bit.. I don't know, clingy? I mean, from what i've seen in the vidcon vlogs they're always tied to eachother's side and considering Matt was one of Phil's AR buddies, he must of known Phil to be generally outgoing yet detached, so for Dan to suddenly come into the picture with this grand ticket of being Phil's 'best friend' it must of thrown him off.

melon lord · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:33 pm

corn flakes wrote: I bit more strong of what I would say but it seems more like someone that had an argument with dan, fair enough as it's normal to not get along with everyone,...but if Phil isn't allowed to talk to him there's something else, a grown up stubborn man like Phil decided to it by himself. Now he should ask himself why?

I was feeling a bit saltier today than usual and it probably just struck a nerve.

Ngl it just annoys me when other personas use their audience as their hugbox for opinions they have on other personas. Unless this is a wide and general important topic (Nicole Arbour's drama, for instance) then yeah be like "I believe so and so about this and that", but when you name-drag other people down then it just reflects poorly on you, imho. Most of these people know their audience might have the same opinion only because they do so it's a source of affirmation for them when they could just be mature and shush about it.

Other than that I am soooo into this juicy gossip.

Dan has always seemed more dependent. Phil introduced him to a lot of people he calls his friends now. Phil very often goes back to his family or has his brother to hang out with. Dan is usually the one left home alone, or goes back home for a tiny bit when Phil is also at his. I dunno if it's awkwardness, if he's not so close with his family or he's overly attached boyfriend

blueapple_x · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:36 pm

Since no one posted it yet:

wtfamidoinghere · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:41 pm

"Not allowed to talk to Phil anymore" please...
Sounds to me like he didn't make the cut to the close friends group that deppy kept around when they got really big and now they are surrounded by management and security and generally hard to approach and he's salty. Maybe blaming Dan makes it easier for him, because he doesn't have to acknowledge that Phil just didn't like him enough to keep in touch.

Maybe i'm just biased, because his fanfic rant already put me off his personality before he started to talk about Dan.

Artdefines06 · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:44 pm

I s2g that sometimes these youtuber relationships remind me of a HS AU fic. It's all mystery and drama and history. I will say that as people grow older they can change and grow apart, or can change and let go of past drama and become unlikely friends. I personally don't speak to some of my closest friends from HS 10 years ago, but am now very good friends with my hs rival who I hated for many years.

I get the Idea that DnP are not great communicators with anyone other than each other or those who push them to socialize. I know several people like that in my life, who if I don't reach out to them and force the communication out of them I would go for months without hearing their voice. Its easy to think that a person like that is cold, or rude, when in fact they are just busy in their own world (Which is VERY busy atm anyway lol).

Also agreed with the management and security surrounding them, aren't they herded everywhere at cons now by a team to avoid mass hysteria or something?

I should really be doing HW lol. My bachelors isn't going to finish itself..

melon lord · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:46 pm

blueapple_x wrote:Since no one posted it yet:

Well I'm glad he's finding his style, at least

And that it's going to charity. I pity the people who get his old fashion

Still, he suits the black aesthetic.

Good job getting all those shades of black to match.

pearshaped34 · Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:54 pm

I definitely think MattG more then implies that Dan is the reason he doesn't speak to Phil any more. I suppose it could be argued he is saying Phil himself doesn't allow him to speak to him any more but as Phil wasn't the one he was calling an asshole/ one of the worst people he knows so it does seem more likely he thinks it's Dan and not Phil that's the problem.

However just because he believes it's down to Dan doesn't mean it's true. Personally I suspect Phil is the type who is too polite to be outwardly rude to someone even if he doesn't like them so it's left to Dan to be unwelcoming to those they don't really want around otherwise they'd be forever making chat with youtubers they don't want to hang with.

On this topic though I would love to know literally all of the people from the old school youtuber scene opinions on D&P. I mean I get it's nice for them when people aren't throwing their names around for attention but still the gossip hungry part of me just feels like there is so much juicy intel there I can't help but want it.

antigone · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:01 pm

I'm pretty sure it's a common 'theory' (take this with a massive pinch of salt) on tumblr (from a certain group of users anyway, they've been discussed here before) that Dan has always been possessive over Phil when it comes to other friendships so it's weird seeing a youtuber hint at that idea. In fact I think this was even discussed on GG once upon a time? I mean obviously tumblr discussions with people who think they know stuff should never be believed but it's interesting regardless.

felucca · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:04 pm

MattG + Deppy in ApartmentRED:

MattG 2012 Playlist vlogs with D&P:

4:56-5:16, 5:27-6:12, 6:45-7:26 + mention at 2:39-3:00

3:54-4:38

human wrote:

"And I'm a middle-aged man doing a love heart symbol with his hands to teenagers in his bedroom with fairylights and emoji cushions *strained breathing* it's not weird."

SquishPhan · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:08 pm

alittledizzy wrote:So yesterday Twitch streamer/old school youtuber MattG apparently had a go at Dan and Phil (mostly Dan) during a gaming stream.

(ty jesp!)

For anyone that doesn't want to watch, I typed it out under the spoiler tag.

full stream link

(2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."

(2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."

(2:09:58) "All I'll say is I don't get to talk to Phil no more. Ahm. Used to talk to him at conventions and now I don't 'cause... 'cause I don't get to. It's not a thing I'm allowed to do."
His tweets to Phil go back to early 2009 and there are vlogs of them hanging out at youtube conventions circa 2012/2013. His implication seems to be that Dan forbid Phil from talking to him, though he doesn't specifically link Dan being an asshole to him not being allowed to talk to Phil so I guess that's open for some interpretation.

This is very interesting. He doesn't talk to Phil anymore, but not a bad word about him. Instead that all goes to Dan. It does seem like he blames Dan for no longer getting to hang out with Phil, but as others have said Phil is a grown man who makes his own decisions.

blueapple_x wrote:Since no one posted it yet:

Really nice that he is donating his old clothes, though really he should get rid of the leather shirt.

Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:32 pm

alittledizzy wrote:So yesterday Twitch streamer/old school youtuber MattG apparently had a go at Dan and Phil (mostly Dan) during a gaming stream.

(ty jesp!)

For anyone that doesn't want to watch, I typed it out under the spoiler tag.

full stream link

(2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."

(2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."

(2:09:58) "All I'll say is I don't get to talk to Phil no more. Ahm. Used to talk to him at conventions and now I don't 'cause... 'cause I don't get to. It's not a thing I'm allowed to do."
His tweets to Phil go back to early 2009 and there are vlogs of them hanging out at youtube conventions circa 2012/2013. His implication seems to be that Dan forbid Phil from talking to him, though he doesn't specifically link Dan being an asshole to him not being allowed to talk to Phil so I guess that's open for some interpretation.

And dude at least spill some good tea on Dan if he really is an asshole, not this half hearted type of of shit. If you're gonna do that don't bother :')

Interesting though that now (at least) two of Phil's old YouTube buds don't like Dan. Is Dan the reason D&P aren't tight with Chris anymore either? Like I know there was that time when Dan said that Chris needs to go out more or whatever after that breakdown he had. But was that indeed the actual reason? And why did Peej get the stamp of approval? Or is Dan still secretly planning to sideline him as well? Will the next pizza and table top games party turn into some Red Wedding-esque shit? Have they visited Ian recently?

blueapple_x wrote:

I'm unstanning if 'bye kpop Dan' means that he got rid of the cute ass hoodie with the horns that he imported from Korea (I think). I'll reconsider if the charity he's giving it to is me.

Lurktacularr · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:38 pm

Y'all are so busy saying Matt G is salty that you can't see your own saltiness because someone came after your fave

I don't think he was out of line, I think that was pretty mild maybe other than the 'asshole' comment but I mean, I'm sure he's been called worse. I've probably called him worse

It would not surprise me at all, despite loving and stanning him to death, if Dan came across as kind of an asshole to certain people in certain situations. Conventions would almost certainly be one of these situations (because high pressure) and Matt G would almost certainly be one of these people (because he knows them but not very well, he's in the dangerous grey area). Whether that's out of nervousness, awkwardness, protectiveness or a combination of all three, it just wouldn't surprise me.

However, I quite agree Phil's a grown ass adult who I'm sure makes his own decisions. I suspect Matt sees it as Dan being the bad guy because that's easier for him and he's clearly got some resentment towards Dan.

He didn't spill any tea which I respect him for. For me, that was totally fine; expressed an open opinion but didn't do any damage or go too far with it. As he said: not everyone can like everyone.

Fair enough dude. Idk who tf you are, but fair enough.

melon lord · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:52 pm

Lurktacularr wrote:Y'all are so busy saying Matt G is salty that you can't see your own saltiness because someone came after your fave

I don't think he was out of line, I think that was pretty mild maybe other than the 'asshole' comment but I mean, I'm sure he's been called worse. I've probably called him worse

It would not surprise me at all, despite loving and stanning him to death, if Dan came across as kind of an asshole to certain people in certain situations. Conventions would almost certainly be one of these situations (because high pressure) and Matt G would almost certainly be one of these people (because he knows them but not very well, he's in the dangerous grey area). Whether that's out of nervousness, awkwardness, protectiveness or a combination of all three, it just wouldn't surprise me.

However, I quite agree Phil's a grown ass adult who I'm sure makes his own decisions. I suspect Matt sees it as Dan being the bad guy because that's easier for him and he's clearly got some resentment towards Dan.

He didn't spill any tea which I respect him for. For me, that was totally fine; expressed an open opinion but didn't do any damage or go too far with it. As he said: not everyone can like everyone.

Fair enough dude. Idk who tf you are, but fair enough.

Nah see this is where I feel differently.

If you're gonna go down the road of naming and shaming others then you blow full steam ahead. You either air it all or nothing at all. That wishy washy "in the middle" attitude only adds mystery and plot to a situation which doesn't even involve the audience at all. He's drama-baiting at the moment because he'll mention Dan and calls him an asshole but doesn't give any OUTRIGHT reason/proof of why. He doesn't finish what he started and that just screams insecurity/desire for approval.

Any big scandal on Youtube (jeffree starr/kat von d, nicole arbour and matthew santoro, etc etc) have been (supposedly) transparent and spoken out cleanly and with conviction of their opinions. Matt's comments here are like those "I know a friend who knows them and they said this and that but I can't share more".

There's plenty of diplomatic and short ways to say you dislike someone. But he gave enough info to tease us into wondering why, but he'll never have the guts to fully say it, either.

kuensukki · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:54 pm

Catallena wrote:
alittledizzy wrote:So yesterday Twitch streamer/old school youtuber MattG apparently had a go at Dan and Phil (mostly Dan) during a gaming stream.

(ty jesp!)

For anyone that doesn't want to watch, I typed it out under the spoiler tag.

full stream link

(2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."

(2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."

(2:09:58) "All I'll say is I don't get to talk to Phil no more. Ahm. Used to talk to him at conventions and now I don't 'cause... 'cause I don't get to. It's not a thing I'm allowed to do."
His tweets to Phil go back to early 2009 and there are vlogs of them hanging out at youtube conventions circa 2012/2013. His implication seems to be that Dan forbid Phil from talking to him, though he doesn't specifically link Dan being an asshole to him not being allowed to talk to Phil so I guess that's open for some interpretation.

And dude at least spill some good tea on Dan if he really is an asshole, not this half hearted type of of shit. If you're gonna do that don't bother :')

Interesting though that now (at least) two of Phil's old YouTube buds don't like Dan. Is Dan the reason D&P aren't tight with Chris anymore either? Like I know there was that time when Dan said that Chris needs to go out more or whatever after that breakdown he had. But was that indeed the actual reason? And why did Peej get the stamp of approval? Or is Dan still secretly planning to sideline him as well? Will the next pizza and table top games party turn into some Red Wedding-esque shit? Have they visited Ian recently?

I just came to post this!! I think its interesting that when Dan came into Phil's life all his other friends took the back burner. Chris seems to still be friends with Phil or atleast friendly enough that he joined IRL and works with Martyn. The Dan/Chris dynamic is very interesting to me. The DITL was basically Phil and Chris with Dan keeping a distance and even trying to leave as fast as he could (I see this with Cat and Deppy too). There was some Dan/Chris drama floating on tumblr for a while but nothing was really confirmed so who knows where they stand- all thats clear is they arent as chummy as they once were. Part of it is probably because we perceived more of a friendship then there actually was but Chris did hint out he felt abandoned so maybe Phil (or Dan) didn't keep in touch with him when he was going through a difficult times (wasn't this confirmed??). The saddest for me was Phil/PJ because they have been friends since 2006 yet now they seem pretty distant. Yea they interact on twitter and sometimes collab but they don't seem as close as they used to be. Now Pewds/PJ are besties

I think as people said Phil is too nice to be outwardly rude to someone so the next thing he does is ignore. He's done it with Emma, Charlie (my amazingskies heart

), Evan, and now more recently Matt G. Even Cat only hung out with them for a short time before they left America and Louise hasn't seemed to see them in a while. We can argue theyre busy but their PJ weeks tell me otherwise

I think the only thing Dan is responsible for is being lazy with Phil but also being the right amount of companionship that Phil doesn't feel the need to go out and hang out with others. Dan is all he needs to be happy and content so he's less likely to seek out anymore. This isn't a great thing imo (even tho its romantic AF) because Phil is usually good at keeping old friends close and maintaining long relationships but now he seems to lazy to care and only hangs out with Dan and occasionally old friends. (atleast based on what we know) There was that BBQ and the shirt Phil left at a friends house so who knows how much of a social (sneaky) butterfly he is in his spare time

re: Dan the asshole man: I can see him coming off as rude and nonchalant. he just doesn't give a fuck about people around him unless its someone he likes or Phil. He is always on the corner with his phones for conventions and maybe got his sass on when Matt G eyefucked Phil from across the room I think in the youtube circle Phil makes an attempt to smile for them both while Dan acts more out of place and uncomfortable- it may be his awkwardness, or it may be the fact that he can't pretend to like people he frankly doesn't give two shits about

bluewho · Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:54 pm

Lurktacularr wrote:Y'all are so busy saying Matt G is salty that you can't see your own saltiness because someone came after your fave

I'm probably about to prove this correct Yes I agree with you but nevertheless:

alittledizzy wrote: (2:05:50) "Several Dan and Phil fictions. Ah. They're all dumb. Anybody who writes stories about people fucking is dumb. I don't know. I think I'm the only person who, uh, has that opinion, but that's just me, I don't care. I'm fairly certain a lot of people - yeah yeah I think you're right, a lot of people are just like, you know, what if Dan and Phil fucked with blood? Here's my story about that. I don't know. Have your fantasies, just don't write them down and try and make them disgusting for people who enjoy - I don't know. I just don't understand the appeal of writing fanfictions about people. Of course, I don't like reading either, so."

(2:07:44) "Why do people dislike Dan? I don't know, maybe because he's an asshole. I'm glad that more than just I dislike him, because I was starting to feel like an asshole for disliking him, but. I'm glad that it's the popular opinion and not just mine."

Oh I understand now - he personally doesn't like reading so he doesn't like fanfiction. He feels dumb for not liking to read - but rather than owning that - he'd rather project and believe that other people who do like reading are dumb. K.

re: the comments about Dan - he talks about being given a bad impression? So presumably this is a Dan behaving rudely/awkwardly to him in person which is not surprising

To be honest if he's going to generalize everybody who likes fanfiction as "dumb" I'm not going to have a high enough opinion of him to worry about whether Dan was rude/possessive to him or not. In fact I hope he was super rude as this guy sounds a bit judgmental.

mio · Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:57 pm

felucca wrote:

3:54-4:38

I love how in this he just provides us with a fine example of Dan and Phil being completely absorbed in each other

(which might or might not prove his point)

I honestly dont find Dan giving an "asshole" vibe to other people that surprising - he doesn't seem very good at keeping up appearances if he doesn't like somebody or doesnt care. There are so many ways how MattG could have come to the conclusion that he's a jerk, I mean people do that all the time, justified or not.
I'd still pay to hear that story

edit: "one of the worst people and then Phil" sounds like a thread name to me

uglyamerican · Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:39 pm

mysterylovescompany wrote:Mandy, I've always heard Adidas pronounced as Addy-das (stress on the first syllable).

The US pronunciation for shoes:

Adidas: Ah-dee-das

Nike: Ni-kee (as opposed to rhyming with bike.)

Artdefines06 · Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:50 pm

Out of curiousity have you guys ever discussed how being an introvert or extrovert in the youtube community affects friendships and collabs?

Of course I hate to guess based on sketch comedy, but I believe there is some truth to every video dan has posted and I would label him a hardcore introvert. I say this as I am one myself, and the only person I can be around without feeling drained, strained, and awkward around for more than a few hours is my husband, or my BF Christina. and thats separately - having them both in the same room is too hard lol. My husband is kinda the same, so we have our close friends over one day a week, and if anyone comes over without letting us know at least on hour before so we can prepare mentally then they are in for being mostly ignored or strained conversation. Our extroverted friends are loved, but we tend to hiss at the phone when they call for the 4th time that week lol. And to us sitting on the couch wrapped in blankets watching anime together is us being busy

*I am putting this as a spoiler as it is all opinions and a lot of it is based on the past, which is not relevant anymore since people can and do change.

uglyamerican · Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:07 am

Perhaps this is an example when two people click, their other friendships take a back seat. It happens all the time. As far as Dan being a hardcore introvert, I'm not sure I buy that - he seems way too comfortable speaking to large audiences, and seems to be witty enough to keep up a conversation. Maybe he just doesn't like to be "social" and maintain a bunch of friends, but has no trouble performing...

Anyway, I hate all the YouTuber drama - seems like HS.

Amelie · Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:20 am

I love that we go from no content to three new things in one day

Phils Liveshow- I still haven't gotten around to watching the entire thing, but overall it seemed pretty chill. I did find it odd when he turned the camera when he got up to retrieve the candle. makes me wonder what he was sitting in front of

YTR- Honestly it was fine, but not particularly noteworthy. I enjoyed the videos they were reacting to more than the reactions.

Dils Wedding- I quite enjoyed the calmness of this video. Yeah, it wasn't as exciting as it could've been, but it at least covered a few key life moments.
One thing that I really wish would do is try a bit harder to keep Dils friends. Why couldn't they invite everyone to the wedding. I'm pretty sure I saw Aubree and her son. They were so important a few episodes ago but now arent even worth a mention. Surely it can't be that hard to just keep inviting everyone to the parties. I wonder if this kind of parallels with their actual lives with Phil Dil only really interacting with Dan Tabitha and basically ignoring every other friend. I tend to agree with the idea that P became less social with others when he became friends with D.

Philena · Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:23 am

Love the gif choice!

anathema · Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:24 am

uglyamerican wrote:Perhaps this is an example when two people click, their other friendships take a back seat. It happens all the time. As far as Dan being a hardcore introvert, I'm not sure I buy that - he seems way too comfortable speaking to large audiences, and seems to be witty enough to keep up a conversation. Maybe he just doesn't like to be "social" and maintain a bunch of friends, but has no trouble performing...

Anyway, I hate all the YouTuber drama - seems like HS.

Just because he's comfortable in front of large audiences/keeping up a conversation doesn't necessarily mean he's extroverted. Being introverted doesn't mean he's inherently shy, it just means being around people for a long time tires him out. I think he's mentioned in the past he's introverted, so that combined with the way he acts makes me believe he's a hardcore introvert. (I'm fairly introverted, but I love performing, so )

Philena wrote:
Love the gif choice!

Cute