Dan & Phil Part 34: It's a post-baking universe

[Moony]

re: phils tweet
awww... i love him
And I also like the fact there is yet again something to add to my Dan and Phil trivia knowledge

livestream
omg dan was soo cute. he seemed very calm and kind
great that he metioned life is strange, I wish he would play it and talk about it because I really would like to hear his opinion on the plot and characters!

I am paraphrasing, but at the beginning of the show he said "even if you only here because of memes and the eye contact you would probably enjoy gamingmas too" I was a bit suprised! I know it doesn't mean anything but I like him casually slipping that is he is aware of all the things the phandom is doing

There were some moments where I was like.. umm.... stop lurking dan +
However, that was probably just me being paranoid

ed: top of the page this is too much attention
ed2: honestly I am cringing so much because I keep finding mistakes in my post
forgive me please, non native speaker here

[sentinel]

So. Dan said they have no plans for 2017, no surprise book BUT they don't want to commit to travel plans so they don't know if they will be at Playlist and VidCon Europe. Dan wants to buy a piano but they literally have no storage for the stuff they currently own.

I am 95% sure they will move in 2017. Considering how happy they are with current state of their relationship (I don't think it's possible to fake that level of chemistry), I guess even if they move out from each other they will stay close.

I don't really see them moving into separate places but they have managed to trick us before. I'm glad today's live show and the gaming video were so fluffy but they seem kind of irritated with each other in a way they usually aren't or at the very least there is still a low-key strange vibe that started with them recently. It could be that they are just burnt out but maybe after a year of literally being stick together maybe they decided to part ways

I've been getting these vibes since the middle of the year. I actually told a friend of mine in July that I think they want to/will move out. Honestly 2012 felt like they were struggling but I never got the low key desire to move out. It's just a very strange vibe, please don't strike 2016 I will not be able to handle it.

[fancybum]

What was that Septiplier shipping confusion? It was an easy answer. The answer is No. They have girlfriends. Why was he so confused about how he felt about that? Why did he even answer if he didn't know how to feel about it. Strange. Either he does ship them (I doubt it?) Or he knows something, or he understands shipping differently than I do, or IDK, he just got flustered?

Why is the answer automatically no if they have girlfriends? Shipping isn't about reality, it's just about thinking two people are cute together and 'shipping it', like it's not a serious thing and of all people, Dan understands that. Reacting negatively to the question would be reacting negatively to shipping as a whole wouldn't it? I think the question just caught him off guard and he was amused by it and started to answer before thinking about it (and having never thought about it before, the answer was him thinking it through more). Just because people take his 'ship' ahem seriously, doesn't mean that's what shipping is to him.

Best liveshow of the year right here, I loved that he talked so much about Kanye and the confusion of the whole Trump thing/not voting when he used to be Mr. "Bush doesn't care about black people" (miss the old Kanye indeed) and adopting a 'wait and see' approach there. Fair. I like that he expressed some straight-up annoyance at people taking the 'rebranding' thing too seriously and attributing everything he does to that cough cough and the whole spiel on being kinkshamed by Pete Wentz. I love Dan. Ooh and talking about not relating to all the teen media about exciting romantic lives while he was just miserable and anxious and alone as a teen. Needa rewatch.
Bring on the timestamps senpais

[Amiaw]

So. Dan said they have no plans for 2017, no surprise book BUT they don't want to commit to travel plans so they don't know if they will be at Playlist and VidCon Europe. Dan wants to buy a piano but they literally have no storage for the stuff they currently own.

I am 95% sure they will move in 2017. Considering how happy they are with current state of their relationship (I don't think it's possible to fake that level of chemistry), I guess even if they move out from each other they will stay close.

I don't really see them moving into separate places but they have managed to trick us before. I'm glad today's live show and the gaming video were so fluffy but they seem kind of irritated with each other in a way they usually aren't or at the very least there is still a low-key strange vibe that started with them recently. It could be that they are just burnt out but maybe after a year of literally being stick together maybe they decided to part ways

Whut? I mean no disrespect, but I can't see any low key annoyance there, just friendly / "friendly" teasing, if anything they seem to be glowing with happiness joking around together. Any specifc instances you can point us to?

I don't mean they are angry I just mean that imo we are seeing more "real" reactions. It's not a bad thing necessarily- in fact makes them actually relatable. I still maintain that the vibe halfway through gamingmas shifted but like I said it's probably a result of trying to do so much in a short amount of time

[gnostic]

So. Dan said they have no plans for 2017, no surprise book BUT they don't want to commit to travel plans so they don't know if they will be at Playlist and VidCon Europe. Dan wants to buy a piano but they literally have no storage for the stuff they currently own.

I am 95% sure they will move in 2017. Considering how happy they are with current state of their relationship (I don't think it's possible to fake that level of chemistry), I guess even if they move out from each other they will stay close.

I don't really see them moving into separate places but they have managed to trick us before. I'm glad today's live show and the gaming video were so fluffy but they seem kind of irritated with each other in a way they usually aren't or at the very least there is still a low-key strange vibe that started with them recently. It could be that they are just burnt out but maybe after a year of literally being stick together maybe they decided to part ways

Whut? I mean no disrespect, but I can't see any low key annoyance there, just friendly / "friendly" teasing, if anything they seem to be glowing with happiness joking around together. Any specifc instances you can point us to?

I don't mean they are angry I just mean that imo we are seeing more "real" reactions. It's not a bad thing necessarily- in fact makes them actually relatable. I still maintain that the vibe halfway through gamingmas shifted but like I said it's probably a result of trying to do so much in a short amount of time

I am sorry but I still don't understand. Yeah we are seeing realer interactions, but where's the annoyance in them? What gives you the bad vibe? This befuddles me because it's so starkingly different from the "vibes" I've gotten

[Reizam]

I feel like he revealed a lot in this liveshow, I'm interested to see time stamps as I think I didn't catch everything the first time. He mentioned a few times that his state of mind isn't the greatest right now, and made references towards awkwardness with family during Christmas as well as social anxiety. Hope he has relaxing Christmas this year to recharge.

I really like his solo live shows as we get so much info from just one hour.

[charlottekath]

I didn't transcribe this (http://natigail.tumblr.com/post/1547363 ... -be-either) but below was one of my favourite bits of the liveshow, I know a few other people on here mentioned how much gamingmas was cheering them up and it was so good to have something to look forward to and was sweet of Dan to acknowledge all this. I hate the Christmas period and honestly all their uploads however silly have just made me smile.


'For a lot of you I imagine it’s going to be either going back to see your family, Christmas is really nice, it’s your favourite time of the year, time off work, time off school, presents and it’s all good. But for lots of people out there, you know, they might have family problems or personal health issues. Christmas isn’t the perfect thing that everybody wants it to be, so I hope for all the people out there that maybe aren’t having the perfect break from doing whatever they want that Gamingmas is a nice little happy thing in their life. ‘Cause I presume that no matter your circumstances if you’re here watching the live show, you probably watch YouTube, so I hope that all of you, no matter how your Christmas period have been going, you’ve just enjoyed watching the fun silly videos on DanAndPhilGAMES.'

[Amiaw]

I am sorry but I still don't understand. Yeah we are seeing realer interactions, but where's the annoyance in them? What gives you the bad vibe? This befuddles me because it's so starkingly different from the "vibes" I've gotten

I dont really know what the vibe is- which is why I didn't articulate it very well- but it could be something that doesn't even have to do with the two of them. It just seems like something is different. Sorry I don't have a better explanation- it's just a feeling I get when I watch them

[malday]

What was that Septiplier shipping confusion? It was an easy answer. The answer is No. They have girlfriends. Why was he so confused about how he felt about that? Why did he even answer if he didn't know how to feel about it. Strange. Either he does ship them (I doubt it?) Or he knows something, or he understands shipping differently than I do, or IDK, he just got flustered?

Probably didn't wan't to upset Septiplier shippers.
He and Phil are tiptoeing around fandoms and don't seem to give their opinions decidedly, especially negative opinions, on things with large fandoms. I understand why but it kind of annoys me.
Like on the last joint ls Phil said he didn't like something and when the chat got upset he said he'll give it a second shot.

[confusedpanda]

Maybe I'm just slightly annoyed with all the reactions I've been seeing across the phandom but, why is everything Dan and Phil now do or say equivalent to them moving out (be it together or separate)?? Dan buying a new piano to replace a broken piano doesn't mean they're moving, it means he's replacing something he wants to play. Being irritated with your friend (or more) when your in a time crunch or spending too much time with them is quite normal. It doesn't equal moving, if anything it just means you need a break from them for a little bit and that's ok. I cannot understand this moving logic. The only thing that can equivalent to moving would be the storage talk but even then it was joking and hasn't been mentioned in well over a month. I swear, dan could tweet about finally cleaning his room up and literally the whole phandom would get into this frenzy of moving. It doesn't make any sense to me.

[MoonPride]

Guys It wasn't me who sent the message about DanandPhilKINKS, by the time I went to send a message it was 2k bars and my daughter only had 1700.

[alittledizzy]

It is literally impossible for me to look at these two guys, as happy as they are right now, as much as every decision they make is a joint decision, as much as every future plan is phrased as a 'we' and an 'us' - and get any kind of vibe that they're moving into different places.

Gonna do full liveshow timestamps when I get the chance to watch it again, but a couple of things I loved/found interesting:

- Dan's yelling about Pokemon and The Walking Dead. I imagine this is exactly the ranting Phil gets to hear every time Dan finds something new he loves. The kind where Dan is just so happy and so into what he's saying and wants to explain something to you so passionately that the longer he talks the louder his voice gets.

- Dan's frustration with people not understanding what branding is, and people thinking that his branding is going to inherently change something about himself or the content he makes. I think he's either being purposefully obtuse or else he considers the "post-baking universe" type of comment not branding at all but a shift in actual demeanor.

- His entire spiel about Skam about his own experiences as a teenager and how he was miserable the whole time and had "no fun romantic experience." Imo, this is the perfect example of his tendency toward revisionist history. He had a girlfriend for three years; while there might have been a lot he was struggling with as a teenager, I doubt he had literally no positive experiences with her. I hope he reaches a time in his life at some point where he can remember the nice things as strongly as he does the bad ones.

- He and Phil are going to Vidcon in LA but aren't going to commit to travel for Playlist or the other Vidcons. He has no career goals for 2017, and sounds so happy about it. It does make me wonder what kind of goals there are if not career ones, but - to reiterate my first point, I get zero vibe that those goals involve any kind of distance between him and Phil... especially not with his base assumption that travel six months out from now will be with Phil.

- Loved his attitude towards DAPG providing some happiness for people who might not view Christmas as the most perfect time of year.

[papierklemmen]

w/e i low key want them to move - either separately or together - so we could get closer to learning the Truth

the only thing that's been irking me is the number of killing each other jokes - could be just dan's tiredness, but it really reminded me of the times when i couldnt wait to move away from my family because i was SO DONE. i'm sure they'll be brand new after their christmas trips though.

edit:

Maybe I'm just slightly annoyed with all the reactions I've been seeing across the phandom but, why is everything Dan and Phil now do or say equivalent to them moving out (be it together or separate)??

honestly, i think it's also a lot of people projecting common sense on them (which might not be a bad thing haha). renting when you have the money to invest in buying your own house/flat is just money down the drain.

[gnostic]

w/e i low key want them to move - either separately or together - so we could get closer to learning the Truth

the only thing that's been irking me is the number of killing each other jokes - could be just dan's tiredness, but it really reminded me of the times when i couldnt wait to move away from my family because i was SO DONE. i'm sure they'll be brand new after their christmas trips though.

Really? For me killing jokes are some of the foremost signs of affection with some people, and then something I know not to do with other people. We should always keep in mind that the level of acceptable joking is different for different relationships. One of the strongest relationships I know, I once witnessed my friend standing up and saying, in completely stone cold voice, to her husband "I WILL RAPE YOUR CORPSE" because he dropped the pizza on the floor

But agree with wanting them to move. While moving together won't be 100% confirmation it will nudge me slightly. Moving out is self explanatory. Like dizzy noticed tho, it's interesting it seeems like they have no plans to untangle as an youtube duo

[bantstrash]

w/e i low key want them to move - either separately or together - so we could get closer to learning the Truth

the only thing that's been irking me is the number of killing each other jokes - could be just dan's tiredness, but it really reminded me of the times when i couldnt wait to move away from my family because i was SO DONE. i'm sure they'll be brand new after their christmas trips though.

Really? For me killing jokes are some of the foremost signs of affection with some people, and then something I know not to do with other people. We should always keep in mind that the level of acceptable joking is different for different relationships. One of the strongest relationships I know, I once witnessed my friend standing up and saying, in completely stone cold voice, to her husband "I WILL RAPE YOUR CORPSE" because he dropped the pizza on the floor

But agree with wanting them to move. While moving together won't be 100% confirmation it will nudge me slightly. Moving out is self explanatory. Like dizzy noticed tho, it's interesting it seeems like they have no plans to untangle as an youtube duo

Yep my experience is you live with anyone long enough you think about murdering them at some point.

[bluebox-away]

Between the storage mentions, the living-out-of-a-suitcase, the fact we haven't seen Dan's room in forever, the "it's been 5 years living together wow!' statements and now Dan wanting a new piano, I definitely agree that a move is on the horizon in 2017. (spider where you at, looks like your prediction is coming true ) Whoever said the piano would be a replacement, firstly I think it's the landlords piano so he can't do anything with it, and secondly, it's a pain to move a piano up all those stairs to their flat, I can't imagine them going to that trouble unless it was fairly permanent. Then with comments about neighbours/weird landlord etc, and the fact they could be paying a mortage instead of rent, to me it's fairly obvious.

As for all the negative vibes people are feeling, no idea where you are getting those! Loved this gaming video a lot, the only 'bad' video imo was the last impossible quiz, purely cause we'd seen most of those questions before and they were clearly getting annoyed at it by the end.. I'll be very sad to see gamingmas end but I've thoroughly enjoyed it this month!
If you're lurking boys, well done with all those videos and speaking of lurking, I'm becoming more and more convinced that Dan reads here.. today in the liveshow "crusty lips and tweeting about kinks" amongst a couple of things felt very much like what we discuss here.
The coincidences are adding up

Oh and I'm glad to see Dan reevaluating his stanning of Kanye, I'd be very concerned if he continued to blindly stan him tbh, but it did feel a little bit Kanye-defence-squad-ish

Edit to add: I almost forgot, but I'm endlessly amused by the fact that the ridiculous reindeer tweet was Phil! Totally didn't see that one coming, or consider it being another challenge vid

[missemma]

Even though I personally don't really think they are moving anytime in the immediate future I feel compelled to point out Dan has managed to not film inside his bedroom for like two months now.

When he appeared in the living room my first thought was 'he must be packing for their big move' and doesn't want to show his room! IDB what have you done to me *checks estate agent websites furiously*. When he said that him and Phil don't want to commit to any travelling next year and mentioned only going to one convention again my moving radar went off. Seems kinda strange they wouldn't commit to things they do every year.

I enjoyed his liveshow, he was pretty chill and relaxed and I don't mind listening to him waffle on. It was nice to hear him say he was looking forwards to going home at Christmas. One of the first positive family things I've heard him say for a while.

[gnostic]

w/e i low key want them to move - either separately or together - so we could get closer to learning the Truth

the only thing that's been irking me is the number of killing each other jokes - could be just dan's tiredness, but it really reminded me of the times when i couldnt wait to move away from my family because i was SO DONE. i'm sure they'll be brand new after their christmas trips though.

Really? For me killing jokes are some of the foremost signs of affection with some people, and then something I know not to do with other people. We should always keep in mind that the level of acceptable joking is different for different relationships. One of the strongest relationships I know, I once witnessed my friend standing up and saying, in completely stone cold voice, to her husband "I WILL RAPE YOUR CORPSE" because he dropped the pizza on the floor

But agree with wanting them to move. While moving together won't be 100% confirmation it will nudge me slightly. Moving out is self explanatory. Like dizzy noticed tho, it's interesting it seeems like they have no plans to untangle as an youtube duo

Yep my experience is you live with anyone long enough you think about murdering them at some point.

That too, but I mostly just meant that some people joke about killing each other in the same way people tease each other on other friendly topics (#JustBroThings amirite?)

Just yesterday my best friends growled in frustration and promised to murder me because I sent her a particularly dank Detox meme

[DryCereal]

I'm glad you made that point about Mr "in-a-relationship-that-lasted-3-freaking-years-at-15" Howell dizzy... cos that isn't a romantically unsuccessful teenage life. And that's where I'm shutting up on that subject. I had other stuff going on during my teens, okay?

New years resolution to get a new piano and play it" HELLO MOVING REFERENCES MY OLD FRIEND. He can't replace that broke-ass old upright, because it isn't his - and getting a piano up to that flat would involve removing windows. Doubt Mr Landlord would be thrilled about that...
Also on that subject: ha. HA. As IF they'd move separately at the moment. Is this how desperately reachy the phanti-movement has gotten this month?

And he's looking forward to spending Christmas with his family. Cute.

The vid... I liked it, but the friend quiz didn't mesh so well with Dragon City. Maybe hey should have tried t with the platformer game instead? (I know it was #spon, so they likely had no choice, but still...) I fear Phil now. He's gone full evil genius. We need to keep an eye on that for all our sakes... Certainly never suspected it wasn't Dan that'd tweeted that, but also, didn't judge him for it either, just chuckled.

[gnostic]

Even though I personally don't really think they are moving anytime in the immediate future I feel compelled to point out Dan has managed to not film inside his bedroom for like two months now.

When he appeared in the living room my first thought was 'he must be packing for their big move' and doesn't want to show his room! IDB what have you done to me *checks estate agent websites furiously*. When he said that him and Phil don't want to commit to any travelling next year and mentioned only going to one convention again my moving radar went off. Seems kinda strange they wouldn't commit to things they do every year.

I enjoyed his liveshow, he was pretty chill and relaxed and I don't mind listening to him waffle on. It was nice to hear him say he was looking forwards to going home at Christmas. One of the first positive family things I've heard him say for a while.

Man I wish y'all would be right and he is actually packing, like, right now. That means we wouldn't have to wait until late spring or smth when their lease is normally renewed to KNOW.

Also ngl, pretty happy with him bringing in some family positivity in light of so many being convinced his family is literal Hitler

EDIT: and seriously, are me and dizzy the only one who went a little bit at "our... friendship". Although it may have been Phil just not wanting to say relationship to give rise to interpretations

[papierklemmen]

EDIT: and seriously, are me and dizzy the only one who went a little bit at "our... friendship". Although it may have been Phil just not wanting to say relationship to give rise to interpretations

i thought he was waiting for dan to finish his talk because he also paused before "a lot". although i will admit i tried reading the movement of his lips to see if he was going for a different word before he settled for "friendship" /no life

OT but LOL which one of you made this?

[psychicmoth]

I'm gonna cry, Dan was in an incredible mood, maybe Phil finally proposed to him today or something jk not jk at all

It is literally impossible for me to look at these two guys, as happy as they are right now, as much as every decision they make is a joint decision, as much as every future plan is phrased as a 'we' and an 'us' - and get any kind of vibe that they're moving into different places.

This I mean, Dan literally described their relationship has 'symbiotic' lmao I know he was joking, but is a pretty accurate definition thb. Anyways, just look at them, there is no way of them moving apart lol

Anyways, I enjoyed this liveshow so much. He sounded so sincere and real, I live for this Dan.
Also, as many of you pointed out, his optimism about 2017 is very interesting. Who knows what the future will bring us?

[Philena]

Good god, I am just drowning in phan content right now.

Loved the gaming vid so much. That's how you do a spon, fo sho. I learned that PhilandPhilGAMES would work out just fine. Phil is obviously the perfect Dan simulator.

They ls was great! Dan was happy and excitable in the best way. My fave bits were the Pokémon and SW rants, the Mandela Effect rant, and the REM shout out at the end: "that's tree in the corner!"

This phandom is so cynical. My prediction: whatever happens in 2017, it'll happen together

[fakelights]

Phil's instagram: I love that photo a lot! He looks absolutely adorable and it's cute that he did the #spon for his aunt.

Phil looking adorable while #spon-ing his aunt's hat company on insta.

Caption: "Feeling very cosy today thanks to my auntie who sent me one of her handmade bobble hats! @bobbleandsqueak you can find her etsy here: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/BobbleAndSqueakShop"

The new Dragon City video: don't really like the game, but loved the video anyway. That's the thing with them, they can (almost) always make something boring very exciting. Though it was very nice and I still can't believe Phil was the one tweeting that lmao I never thought for a second it wasn't Dan... Oh well! Phil is secretly a demon and I love it

Also the rest of the Gamingmas: I'm enjoying it all so much that even the videos I don't like very much are good to me. But while I don't know what I'm going to do from the next week and on without something new everyday, I'm quite glad that I'll be able to breathe a little without feeling guilty of not watching some videos the moment they come out.

Dan's liveshow: this is probably the best one in a while because he seemed to be pretty content and relaxed. I enjoyed it

About the possibility of them moving soon: I can see it too, I think it is a very possible thing to happen next year. Together, obviously.

[pearshaped34]

Re Moving. I can't remember when or where but I'm sure Dan said at some point that his current piano had supposedly been in the house a very long time and had never been moved out of that room. I doubt his thinking of replacing it. Or that the landlord would let him. Dan planning for a new piano in 2017 is definitely one to add to the probably-definitely moving column.