Dan & Phil Part 39: There's no integrity here

[lost686girl]

oh boy. the day dan joins the Filmmakers™ crowd of youtube and starts producing ~films~ will probably be the day i check out for good. he's been slightly annoying with his "good content" whinery lately but i pray it'll never reach the levels of jack howard/hazel hayes. as for chat shows or sitcoms... honestly, at this point it's pretty obvious that traditional media and "content creators" don't mix well. grace flopped, tyler oakley flopped, and their channels lost views in the process. deppy can do whatever they want, and they probably do want because no way they will find just youtube satisfactory after all the outside experience, but gotta choose wisely because they're way past their prime. also, they are not good at actings and they are very awkward interviewers. idek.

your optimism is inspiring. do you even like dan and phil?

yes, but thanks for your concern

no worries, hit me up again for a chat when you "check out for good" lol

[papierklemmen]

lol what's your problem? i just expressed some opinions like everyone else. someone wants them to do films, some don't.

[lost686girl]

lol what's your problem? i just expressed some opinions like everyone else. someone wants them to do films, some don't.

if dan has shown an interest in ~filmmaking~ i don't think that his fans should be the ones that discourage him from pursuing it...he cannot keep doing youtube videos till he retires at 65. he's gonna have growth and development, for better or for worse. in my opinion "fans" need to be supportive of this, or at least recognize that it's going to happen at some point. pointing out that other youtubers "flopped" when they tried to branch out is so negative. it's a burgeoning industry and there are going to be more "flops" than successes when someone tries to do something new. that shouldn't stop other artist from trying it

[papierklemmen]

i'm not in any way discouraging him from doing anything, i don't know him personally, i don't interact with either of them whatsover, don't tweet or comment under their videos with my "discouraging" attitude, this forum is a free zone as far as i know. i realize that he can't be a youtuber forever and as i said they can do whatever they want, but again as i said i just think they should choose wisely. i think if "fans" are allowed to express what they want to see dan and phil do (films? specific games? paint their nails? get a dog?), they're also allowed to say what they wouldn't want to see them do, especially if it's on the obscure site in the middle of the internet. and being supportive of everything your fav does is also not a requirement. i may like hugh laurie the actor, but i'm not obliged to listen to his musical albums or read his books.

[RiriPandaHeart2]

You laugh now but wait.. let me connect the strings here...
"Ongoing issue in [his] professional life" - Discriminated against for wearing fursuits or clip-on tails to industry events and meetings.
“If you like laughing at my life turned into a joke," - Most people don't take furrydom seriously as a lifestyle.
"It’s a big deal, and also not,” - It may feel like a big deal to confess his furry inclinations in a standalone video, but he's already addressed them in the memes video, so also not.
Wanting to change his name - danisnotonfire > Dan Howl, naturally.
Call me Sasha Belle because I done cracked the code

You convinced me dannonfill. I'm a believer now.

[lurker]

i had a dream last night that dan's rebrand wasn't to dan howell but to "Dan Howell Is Not On Fire". that's what you get for lurking on idb before you go to sleep i suppose.

[fancybum]

and being supportive of everything your fav does is also not a requirement. i may like hugh laurie the actor, but i'm not obliged to listen to his musical albums or read his books.

Um, The Gun Seller was actually quite a fun read, soooo #fakefan
(jk!)

Did this whole thing get started because of Dan saying something about doing higher budget stuff? Because I think he just meant stuff that he does already (sketchy things with a theme), but just better produced. I remember him saying he'd maybe be interested in more documentary stuff after his Supergamers experience, but has he ever said anything about filmmaking? I know he can be pretentious himself, but he's so sarcastic about the pretentiousness of the filmmaker YTers, I hope he'd be too self-aware to go down that same route (in terms of general attitude..), but who knows.

Now I'm just wondering if Phil's gotten any further with whatever idea he was working on and if they're going to end up doing another joint project with YTRed or something. 'Creative ideas/bigger production budget/not sure of their joint availability later in the year' They're not moving, they're just filming a high-budget interactive adventure themed around the 7 deadly sins!!1!1
Solved it

[secretagentphan]

i had a dream last night that dan's rebrand wasn't to dan howell but to "Dan Howell Is Not On Fire". that's what you get for lurking on idb before you go to sleep i suppose.

I WOULD LAUGH SO DAMN HARD.

[whiskisalildepressed]

maybe dan will change his username so they can bring back "AmazingDan"

[papierklemmen]

Now I'm just wondering if Phil's gotten any further with whatever idea he was working on and if they're going to end up doing another joint project with YTRed or something. 'Creative ideas/bigger production budget/not sure of their joint availability later in the year' They're not moving, they're just filming a high-budget interactive adventure themed around the 7 deadly sins!!1!1
Solved it

(lol i liked the gun seller)

i actually do believe that all the mysterious exciting things they've been mentioning are them working on something, and not moving or dogs. ytred sounds quite plausible.

i think the whole thing started because of dan's "maybe that’s something I could do more creatively, with a bigger production budget, or maybe just on youtube". what is "not just youtube" then? that is the question.

[SexyTrashCan]

i had a dream last night that dan's rebrand wasn't to dan howell but to "Dan Howell Is Not On Fire". that's what you get for lurking on idb before you go to sleep i suppose.

I'm not a stalker I swear but was it you who I've seen before who has weird dreams about Deppy?

[lurker]

i had a dream last night that dan's rebrand wasn't to dan howell but to "Dan Howell Is Not On Fire". that's what you get for lurking on idb before you go to sleep i suppose.

I'm not a stalker I swear but was it you who I've seen before who has weird dreams about Deppy?

um i do have a lot of weird dreams! but i think i only posted in the dream discussion thread once (about deppy anchoring a cooking show on dips for sweet potato fries while sporting jedward hairstyles). i don't know if that's what you remembered?

[SexyTrashCan]

i had a dream last night that dan's rebrand wasn't to dan howell but to "Dan Howell Is Not On Fire". that's what you get for lurking on idb before you go to sleep i suppose.

I'm not a stalker I swear but was it you who I've seen before who has weird dreams about Deppy?

um i do have a lot of weird dreams! but i think i only posted in the dream discussion thread once (about deppy anchoring a cooking show on dips for sweet potato fries while sporting jedward hairstyles). i don't know if that's what you remembered?

I don't honestly know but most likely or I got mixed up I just recall random things from when I lurked here

[SquishPhan]

I think it's pretty cute.

[SexyTrashCan]

I agree

[thephandommenace]

Ooh a dream discussion thread, that's my night sorted

It's possible to be a fan of Dan and Phil and still get annoyed/frustrated with them. Plus who said you had to be supportive of them to be on this thread, I mean I joined this site because I needed a good rant and it's a place you can come to be critical without having superfans jump down your throat. I support them both but if Dan ever did anything like the TABINOF trailer again... *winces*

[rizzo]

I think it's pretty cute.

Agreed. It's adorable. But also - where in the hell are they gonna put that?! Time to move already tbh.

[malday]

[papierklemmen]

#phimmy

[SexyTrashCan]

Random observation but I'm a nerd with things like this and I have Phil's live sub count open in a tab and I noticed an hour ago or so he gained 100 subs in a space of 5 seconds when usually he gets less or around 100 subs per hour so what? Pure coincidence that 100 people subbed at exactly the same time?

[anathema]

lol what's your problem? i just expressed some opinions like everyone else. someone wants them to do films, some don't.

if dan has shown an interest in ~filmmaking~ i don't think that his fans should be the ones that discourage him from pursuing it...he cannot keep doing youtube videos till he retires at 65. he's gonna have growth and development, for better or for worse. in my opinion "fans" need to be supportive of this, or at least recognize that it's going to happen at some point. pointing out that other youtubers "flopped" when they tried to branch out is so negative. it's a burgeoning industry and there are going to be more "flops" than successes when someone tries to do something new. that shouldn't stop other artist from trying it

Well, papierklemmen said they would check out, so what does it even matter if they aren't supportive? They wouldn't be a fan anymore. Besides that, fans don't have to be supportive of everything someone does. I hate dapgo. I think it's an overpriced money-grabbing scrapbook that had no reason to be made. A "coffee table book"? Get over yourself. But, I'm still a fan of d&p. Just because I like someone doesn't mean I have to support them in everything they do. Another thing people say a lot is "no one's forcing you to like it/watch it/buy it/etc., so keep your negative opinions to yourself" and honestly I think that's BS. Why should we have to keep negative opinions to ourselves? Shouldn't we be allowed to say when we don't like something? I'm not saying someone should like message Dan directly saying "hey don't make films I think they would be a pile of crap", but people are allowed to say "I wouldn't like it if they did that", especially on a place like this.

I think it's pretty cute.

Aw that's so cute

[malday]

#phimmy

i support it

[sweetmm]

#phimmy

i support it

Phimmy is such a perfect couple; with Phil obsess in property related shows and Jimmy currently re-building his new house himself. If they had chosen each other from years back maybe they'll both be in radio and staying in a suburban house they renovate together

[scientia]

#phimmy

i support it

Phimmy is such a perfect couple; with Phil obsess in property related shows and Jimmy currently re-building his new house himself. If they had chosen each other from years back maybe they'll both be in radio and staying in a suburban house they renovate together

Ooh is there a Jimmy FAQ page/section? I hadn't heard of him before, have either of Deppy met him? I like this phimmy just from the little bit I've seen

[malday]

#phimmy

i support it

Phimmy is such a perfect couple; with Phil obsess in property related shows and Jimmy currently re-building his new house himself. If they had chosen each other from years back maybe they'll both be in radio and staying in a suburban house they renovate together

Ooh is there a Jimmy FAQ page/section? I hadn't heard of him before, have either of Deppy met him? I like this phimmy just from the little bit I've seen

yes they have: A DMC with Dan & Phil | The 4:01 Show

he's in a relationship, though i think.