Dan & Phil Part 52: And They Were Roommates

[quercussp]

My favorite part of Dan's liveshow was him being flustered when asked about Danthony

[rizzo]

Anyone's got a counter on how many times he said 'friend' so far? Because it feels like a lot

I saw this comment coming, but also counterpoint: What else is he going to say? Boyfriend? Nah, dude.

So my guess is the house that they're renovating is just taking longer to get done than they expected.

I'm honestly so excited for their forever-home tour. Fully renovated house. Unrecognizable from ads. A corgi will already be running around. Just.... I'm getting teary-eyed thinking about it.

[LtrllySusan]

That 72 year old man with your skin was really uncomfortable, especially in light of someone actually getting catfished...

I was about to say, I liked that he indirectly addressed the catfishing thing but his mind went a bit far with that scenario... Besides, I still believe in Schrodinger's Cherry aka cherrybomb3 (it's both Dan and not Dan at the same time) .

Also, it's the first time I very much disagree with him on the music opinions but let's not talk about my Rammstein phase

[liola]

I love how he got the "seriously??" Look when they asked about Danthony such a difference when someone mentions Phan

I was waiting for some actual tea but nothing was in it. Did he say where Phil was? And did he mention at all the possibility of popping in his live show on Thursday? I'd guess if they had to tell usyou something they'd do a joint one..

Well, I tried not to get my hopes up but I'm still a bit disappointed lmao Why do I trust that troll, truly.

I'm excited for the Sims video, especially because it's a building one.

[Speedygonz33]

I can't help but feel like Dan's next video is going to be the announcement about whatever was going on in March like he's saying that it's gonna be a calm video ironically. Or it's a big collab with many youtubers like Markiplier did at Vidcon. He always hypes something up and then ends up disappointing us with something small but maybe this time it isn't. Also did he really HAVE to say that Phil was the one recording him on the carousel. Everything seems so "giving the people what they want" which confused me and idk what to think

[missemma]

dan: mentions that he doesn't care about the wizard of oz
me:


dan: mentions how good rammstein are.
me:


dan: mentions the word friend 2042950249302958 times when talking about the lester family trip.
me:


dan: mentions that he reads all the comments on his videos and brings up that he saw a conversation about how he wears white eyeliner.
me:

[flarequake]

That description of the creepy old man was nightmare-inducing. Also rude to 72-year-old men everywhere tbh. That was a nice liveshow otherwise. Hilarious postponing of week in March and he barely seemed to remember it anyway, also no word on what they did on Saturday that nixed SITC, but he mentioned work. His rained-on hair looking extra curly was lovely, not that he appreciated it. That carousel, I see it every now and again if I go further down the South Bank than the main buildings, never thought to actually go on it. Sims renovations sound good. Long live the owl slide (or rip, we'll see).

[Catallena]

lmao I've had a feeling for months now that he wasn't gonna say shit in August and that everyone would have hyped themselves up over nothing because it's D&P we're dealing with here. It's so them. I'm disappointed tho, he better spill it ~two months from now~ or else

Hyped for that Sims home makeover video because that's the shit I live for. We're never gonna get them talking about the interior of that damn flat (all we know is that they settled on grey.. and not even fifty shades of it) so the Sims is the next best thing.

[Ablissa]

Anyone's got a counter on how many times he said 'friend' so far? Because it feels like a lot

I saw this comment coming, but also counterpoint: What else is he going to say? Boyfriend? Nah, dude.

I get it and I tell myself the same. I'm the one usually saying stuff like that, of course he's not going to say anything else. But he went out of his way to emphasize the word and repeated it over and over. I don't know, it bugs me.

[leaveimreading]

Has anyone mentioned this yet? That thumbnail, is he serious Marcus, buddy, take a hint.

[malday]

That 72 year old man with your skin was really uncomfortable, especially in light of someone actually getting catfished...

maybe that's why he even brought up the subject, so people stop falling for accounts impersonating him.

[alittledizzy]

Anyone's got a counter on how many times he said 'friend' so far? Because it feels like a lot

I saw this comment coming, but also counterpoint: What else is he going to say? Boyfriend? Nah, dude.

I get it and I tell myself the same. I'm the one usually saying stuff like that, of course he's not going to say anything else. But he went out of his way to emphasize the word and repeated it over and over. I don't know, it bugs me.

For me this just goes back to what rizzo said: what else is gonna say? He's trying to relate a general scenario to his audience and ask if people do the same, he can't go "when a Phil's parents come over" because that isn't relatable and he's not going to say "boyfriend" because, obvious reasons. So how else would he word it when he's telling a story that involves qualifying who it is that's coming over that he's behaving around? Because most of his sentences wouldn't make sense without something in place of the blank when saying "your/a ____'s parents."

I guess he could have just not told the story at all, but the idea that in a scenario where he wants to tell a cute story involving Phil's parents he would still opt not to just because he can't use 100% accurate wording bums me out. I will definitely take closet-friendly anecdotes over going back to being shut out of stories about their down time/family time totally.

[liola]

Anyone's got a counter on how many times he said 'friend' so far? Because it feels like a lot

I saw this comment coming, but also counterpoint: What else is he going to say? Boyfriend? Nah, dude.

I get it and I tell myself the same. I'm the one usually saying stuff like that, of course he's not going to say anything else. But he went out of his way to emphasize the word and repeated it over and over. I don't know, it bugs me.

For me this just goes back to what rizzo said: what else is gonna say? He's trying to relate a general scenario to his audience and ask if people do the same, he can't go "when a Phil's parents come over" because that isn't relatable and he's not going to say "boyfriend" because, obvious reasons. So how else would he word it when he's telling a story that involves qualifying who it is that's coming over that he's behaving around? Because most of his sentences wouldn't make sense without something in place of the blank when saying "your/a ____'s parents."

I guess he could have just not told the story at all, but the idea that in a scenario where he wants to tell a cute story involving Phil's parents he would still opt not to just because he can't use 100% accurate wording bums me out. I will definitely take closet-friendly anecdotes over going back to being shut out of stories about their down time/family time totally.

To me it's not the use of the word "friend", it's obvious why he does it. It's the emphasis behind it, how many tones in a sentence he does it, his tone while he does it, it's just..too much. Which makes me shake my head in a fond way because, that's exactly what I used to do when I talked about a boyfriend/crush when I don't want to mention their actual role.

Wait how did I miss that Phil was the one filming in on the carousel? It must have lagged right there damn

[Ablissa]

For me this just goes back to what rizzo said: what else is gonna say? He's trying to relate a general scenario to his audience and ask if people do the same, he can't go "when a Phil's parents come over" because that isn't relatable and he's not going to say "boyfriend" because, obvious reasons. So how else would he word it when he's telling a story that involves qualifying who it is that's coming over that he's behaving around? Because most of his sentences wouldn't make sense without something in place of the blank when saying "your/a ____'s parents."

In that context, it does make more sense. Of course I never expected him to say boyfriend or anything of the sort, but he has used more ambiguous words in the past, instead of repeating friend 20 times over (I haven't actually counted). It felt like he was trying to put an emphasis on it, the way they used to do in the past. But you're right, it doesn't mean anything.

I think I'm a bit too invested tbh. The general mood in the phandom (at least on tumblr?) since Phil's sleepless night video (and before that too, but less so) seems a bit weird and I don't like seeing that, too much blame being thrown around etc., so perhaps that's why it stood out to me; any sign like that makes me nervous about people freaking out over it later... yes, I know it's pathetic.

[rizzo]

Anyone's got a counter on how many times he said 'friend' so far? Because it feels like a lot

I saw this comment coming, but also counterpoint: What else is he going to say? Boyfriend? Nah, dude.

I get it and I tell myself the same. I'm the one usually saying stuff like that, of course he's not going to say anything else. But he went out of his way to emphasize the word and repeated it over and over. I don't know, it bugs me.

For me this just goes back to what rizzo said: what else is gonna say? He's trying to relate a general scenario to his audience and ask if people do the same, he can't go "when a Phil's parents come over" because that isn't relatable and he's not going to say "boyfriend" because, obvious reasons. So how else would he word it when he's telling a story that involves qualifying who it is that's coming over that he's behaving around? Because most of his sentences wouldn't make sense without something in place of the blank when saying "your/a ____'s parents."

I guess he could have just not told the story at all, but the idea that in a scenario where he wants to tell a cute story involving Phil's parents he would still opt not to just because he can't use 100% accurate wording bums me out. I will definitely take closet-friendly anecdotes over going back to being shut out of stories about their down time/family time totally.

To me it's not the use of the word "friend", it's obvious why he does it. It's the emphasis behind it, how many tones in a sentence he does it, his tone while he does it, it's just..too much. Which makes me shake my head in a fond way because, that's exactly what I used to do when I talked about a boyfriend/crush when I don't want to mention their actual role.

Wait how did I miss that Phil was the one filming in on the carousel? It must have lagged right there damn

I'm inclined to ask whether he does use a different tone or say "friend" too much or whether you're just more apt to hear it, because you're listening out for it?

I bet if I grabbed someone off the street who had no idea who the hell Dan and Phil were, they'd think everything about that story sounded perfectly reasonable.

[annabanana]

So much talk of tea in that live-show and none was actually spilled. What's the point?!

MTE! he clearly has some serious OPINIONS about what went down with his Tinder video (and presumably Tom's as well) but didn't tell us anything more that his tweet already did. Plus all of his further low-key references to the situation when talking about the next dinof video but again not giving us any actual info about what went down bts just made me

WE NEED THE

[liola]

I'm inclined to ask whether he does use a different tone or say "friend" too much or whether you're just more apt to hear it, because you're listening out for it?

I bet if I grabbed someone off the street who had no idea who the hell Dan and Phil were, they'd think everything about that story sounded perfectly reasonable.

it's probably me being biased by what I know/think about their relationship, I'm not ashamed to say it. It's not like we're accusing him of anything, it just struck me funny and it made me giggle. Someone with no knowledge about them would probably not notice anything about it, you're right.

[autumnhearth]

Very mixed feelings on this one. He seemed to be in an interesting mood, mostly good, but quite guarded. One moment that stood out to me was when was asked about 'In A Heartbeat, and he said he hasn't watched it yet but that he was sure he'd cry, but then went on to clarify that it wasn't about relatability, just that animated short films are touching, even if their about seagulls. Basically felt like a no homo.

The cat fishing could have been addressed so much more tactfully, he had a great segue without having to get into the story (which I wouldn't expect him too) to say hey, honestly guys, be careful, we will never send you messages from [...] but no it had to turn into a creepy joke. Ugh.

Excited that Sims is in editing, excited that the second Dream Daddy episode has been filmed. I want that ironic candle vlog. And it seems like he *might* be opening up the door to a make-up collab with a beauty vlogger with some of the comments today.

Interesting accounts of last week. Annoy your friend by being more polite than them. And I'm sure the Lesters were just going to leave Dan at home Carousels are the opposite of his aesthetic but the horse he was riding on was beautiful. Ok...

Confusing wording on house tour, I think "one day" referred either to him being happy with the aesthetics or a tour of the next place, but not agreeing to a future tour of this place. Phil has been pretty clear about this. Also said "yep" twice after asked about choking, I know it was more of a "yep it's time to go" got to be careful with those words.

Definitely was avoiding talking about plans, but like in an obvious way. It was kind of funny.

Trollololol.

[coffeepenguin]

Man, I laughed so hard when he told us to get back to him about the "week in March" thing in two months, what a troll... also, Dan tried really hard to drive home the message about Phil being (only) his friend, didn't he? He was so convincing I was actually reconsidering my stance on phan being real, but then he said before seeing it, he didn't care much for Wicked right after telling us he invited himself... nah, you get that privacy, as a semi closeted person myself, I respect your decision, but learn to better filter yourself if you want to keep doing that. Basically, this:

But can you imagine if it was actually true? I'm laughing at them maybe being platonic and Dan talking so much about how introvert he is and how he doesn't like socializing, he suddenly has the opportunity to spend the night alone while his roommate is out with his family BUT NO HE HAS TO JOIN!!! I'm dying laughing lmao

The wight eyeliner rant was interesting because it was right after some comment about Japan and when Dan said "discourse", I was for a moment sure he would be talking about katakana on the merch and cultural appropriation discourse (and during that moment, I was surprised by how harsh his tone was, but of course, he wouldn't talk about it, silly me, he didn't even mention the monolid thing)

On a more interesting note, did I understand correctly that Dan (and Phil? probably, let's be real) had to work on this weekend, but we don't know what it is about, apart from it was at the same time that SITC, so that might've been the thing that prevented them from going and they knew about it much in advance?

[citizen_erased]

For me this just goes back to what rizzo said: what else is gonna say? He's trying to relate a general scenario to his audience and ask if people do the same, he can't go "when a Phil's parents come over" because that isn't relatable and he's not going to say "boyfriend" because, obvious reasons. So how else would he word it when he's telling a story that involves qualifying who it is that's coming over that he's behaving around? Because most of his sentences wouldn't make sense without something in place of the blank when saying "your/a ____'s parents."

In that context, it does make more sense. Of course I never expected him to say boyfriend or anything of the sort, but he has used more ambiguous words in the past, instead of repeating friend 20 times over (I haven't actually counted). It felt like he was trying to put an emphasis on it, the way they used to do in the past. But you're right, it doesn't mean anything.

I think I'm a bit too invested tbh. The general mood in the phandom (at least on tumblr?) since Phil's sleepless night video (and before that too, but less so) seems a bit weird and I don't like seeing that, too much blame being thrown around etc., so perhaps that's why it stood out to me; any sign like that makes me nervous about people freaking out over it later... yes, I know it's pathetic.

it's not pathetic, don't worry. I recognize the feeling, I agree that things have been feeling a bit tense and weird among fans, and it's making me feel on edge every time I post something (which is not helping my social anxiety like, at all). I'm simultaneously upset and relieved that almost everything I post here gets completely ignored because it saves me from so much drama.

Maybe try taking a bit of a step back? Try thinking about how a casual viewer would see these things? For me, at least, it helps to remind myself that fans tend to overanalyse like mad, which can be fun, but probably most of the time the creators in question were just trying to be #relatable or funny without any ulterior motive whatsoever.

[relatablemood]

Oh, I'm kinda disappointed with the liveshow It's not that it wasn't entertaining but I'm someone who never usually watches them live, only watching it later on or reading someone's summary. But I did today because I thought that Danners would spill tea about Tindr, tell us about That Week In March, make a serious comment on the catfishing + recent discourse and finally, have a chill chat about all of the exciting things that happened this week.

I was wrong. To be honest, I'm not sure why everyone is saying that we have to wait another two months like he said. It sounded to me like he'd been trolling us all along and never has any intention of revealing what went down, if anything went down at all. Felt like a bit of a slap in the face.

Furthermore, he was icky about the catfishing, shaded the discourse, didn't tell us crap about Tindr after telling us he would - I am not too happy with him right now.

But question to you all, what do you think of the rising popularity of people believing Dan to be non binary? I know we discussed this briefly awhile back but Dan's talk about the eyeliner tonight has got a few people talking about it on Tumblr again and I always thought it was interesting with how open Dan has always been about gender and his thoughts on it. What do we think, fan service, a simple feminine side or non-binarism? Or a mix of all three, if that's possible?

Not gonna lie I really love this site after awhile of lurking, I've been on other forums for different fandoms/communities and this is by far the most mature and welcoming

[missemma]

On a more interesting note, did I understand correctly that Dan (and Phil? probably, let's be real) had to work on this weekend, but we don't know what it is about, apart from it was at the same time that SITC, so that might've been the thing that prevented them from going and they knew about it much in advance?

I'm a skeptic and think he only said that because people at times were spamming the chat with "why didn't you go sitc" and he could address it without being direct. I really don't believe he worked all weekend and just think they chose not to go for whatever reasons and used working as an excuse to not to talk about it.

Also, in regards to the friends comments, it's not the fact he used the word friend that made my eye roll; it was the amount of unnecessary times he used it. He didn't have to keep saying 'friends parents' he could have just said 'phil's parents' for some of it or something else, we knew what he was trying to say.

[hello9217]

But does Dan not know that we know that he spent like an entire month in Florida with the Lester's? He's also known Phil for like 8 years and so I feel like this whole story was just him being #relatable. Also if you ever feel weird at the whole friend thing just know that before anything else dan and phil ARE best friends.

[Ablissa]

it's not pathetic, don't worry. I recognize the feeling, I agree that things have been feeling a bit tense and weird among fans, and it's making me feel on edge every time I post something (which is not helping my social anxiety like, at all). I'm simultaneously upset and relieved that almost everything I post here gets completely ignored because it saves me from so much drama.

Maybe try taking a bit of a step back? Try thinking about how a casual viewer would see these things? For me, at least, it helps to remind myself that fans tend to overanalyse like mad, which can be fun, but probably most of the time the creators in question were just trying to be #relatable or funny without any ulterior motive whatsoever.

Yeah, I get the feeling. IDB is the nicest place ever to discuss things, so I'm far less anxious to post here, but tumblr has been really on edge lately (or maybe people just hate me specifically )

Sad as it may be, deppy account for a lot of the daily "enjoyment" that I get, since I'm basically always at work or asleep, so reading IDB or watching their vids on the way to/from work is my main source of entertainment. I don't really want to take a step back, just gotta stop overthinking things I guess. I am one of those people that are convinced they are together, and when they seem to go out of their way to convince us otherwise, it bugs me. (Yes, I know why they would do that if they are together. Just saying because I know this is a v sensitive subject to many)

To clarify - I don't think they owe us (or me) anything. I simply enjoy the progress they've made over the years and, to me, some of the things Dan said today were a bit out of character for the way he's been acting lately. That's all.

Last minute addition to the post:

Also, in regards to the friends comments, it's not the fact he used the word friend that made my eye roll; it was the amount of unnecessary times he used it. He didn't have to keep saying 'friends parents' he could have just said 'phil's parents' for some of it or something else, we knew what he was trying to say.

You said it 100x better than I could have done, missemma. The emphasis bugged me and not the word itself.

[alittledizzy]

For me this just goes back to what rizzo said: what else is gonna say? He's trying to relate a general scenario to his audience and ask if people do the same, he can't go "when a Phil's parents come over" because that isn't relatable and he's not going to say "boyfriend" because, obvious reasons. So how else would he word it when he's telling a story that involves qualifying who it is that's coming over that he's behaving around? Because most of his sentences wouldn't make sense without something in place of the blank when saying "your/a ____'s parents."

In that context, it does make more sense. Of course I never expected him to say boyfriend or anything of the sort, but he has used more ambiguous words in the past, instead of repeating friend 20 times over (I haven't actually counted). It felt like he was trying to put an emphasis on it, the way they used to do in the past. But you're right, it doesn't mean anything.

I think I'm a bit too invested tbh. The general mood in the phandom (at least on tumblr?) since Phil's sleepless night video (and before that too, but less so) seems a bit weird and I don't like seeing that, too much blame being thrown around etc., so perhaps that's why it stood out to me; any sign like that makes me nervous about people freaking out over it later... yes, I know it's pathetic.

it's not pathetic, don't worry. I recognize the feeling, I agree that things have been feeling a bit tense and weird among fans, and it's making me feel on edge every time I post something (which is not helping my social anxiety like, at all). I'm simultaneously upset and relieved that almost everything I post here gets completely ignored because it saves me from so much drama.

Maybe try taking a bit of a step back? Try thinking about how a casual viewer would see these things? For me, at least, it helps to remind myself that fans tend to overanalyse like mad, which can be fun, but probably most of the time the creators in question were just trying to be #relatable or funny without any ulterior motive whatsoever.

Someone actually sent me a message on anon last week that I think just words the whole 'friend' issue well and why it's a non-issue for me totally.

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