Thishello9217 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:21 am I used to follow Zoe and Alfie back in 2014, yes I know, but I remember they asked people to stop coming up to them in restaurants while their eating. Dan and Phil are some of the only youtubers that never really mention things that bother them. Like they may hint at or touch on the subject briefly but never really devote a tweet or a portion of a liveshow to discussing things. After festive ditl, or maybe it was the London one, so many people found out where they lived but I don't think they ever tweeted something like 'stop coming by our apartment.'
Bit off topic but they also don't do this with youtube related things either. I see so many youtubers complain if one of their videos gets demonetized or if it doesn't show up in someones subscription box but deppy just never say anything.
Compared to other YouTubers, deppy don't tell us anything. When it comes to fans approaching them in restaurants, we don't know the extent to which it does/doesn't bother them, and until we do know, fans who spot them in public will continue acting on their own moral codes alone. 
And then, knowing the self-policing tendencies of the phandom, most people would listen. (Or risk being attacked...)Yes because all Alfie and Zoe had to do right was say publicly how much they didn't like fans stalking their house and it stopped completely. Easy fix right?tacitus wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:19 pmThishello9217 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:21 am I used to follow Zoe and Alfie back in 2014, yes I know
Bit off topic but they also don't do this with youtube related things either. I see so many youtubers complain if one of their videos gets demonetized or if it doesn't show up in someones subscription box but deppy just never say anything.
I've watched an interview with Jared and Jensen from Supernatural, who said they don't mind fans coming up to them as long as they do so respectfully (i.e. don't scream in their faces). Emma Watson won't take pictures with fans but is willing to have a conversation with them. Everyone has different boundaries. If I didn't know deppy better, I'd be inclined to say that their lack of comment on these situations means they don't mind fans doing it. But I do know them better, and I know that they just don't always comment on things, period.
If it does bother them, it's a pretty easy fix. It doesn't have to turn into a big deal. They could discuss it in a ls while reassuring people that they aren't angry about it, or Phil could make a post in that disgustingly friendly tone he uses to tell people off
But it makes me wonder why they've just stopped addressing so many things? Things that probably bother them?
But that's just it. You shouldn't equate the twopearshaped34 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:19 pm Yes because all Alfie and Zoe had to do right was say publicly how much they didn't like fans stalking their house and it stopped completely. Easy fix right?
I do think you are probably right that "most" fans would listen however the issue is most fans already know not to approach them in a restaurant or go to their house without them having to specifically say it. It's not those fans who are the big problem.
People who go to their house are creepy stalkers, whereas most of the people who approach them in restaurants are just regular fans. People who go to their house will not listen to reason, whereas people who approach them are genuine fans and are generally extremely respectful. This comes back to the subjective boundaries/morals thing I was trying to talk about - you might not think it's okay to approach them in restaurants (I don't either), but some people do. And I believe that because those people are all fans like you and I, if deppy ask them not to do it, they will stop.
This. Everytime they complained about something in the past, loads of "fans" have just ranted about how ungrateful they were for asking for a minimum of privacy and respect. It's not just trolls either. Loads of fans just can't seem to understand that being a celebrity doesn't equal having to be available to entertain your fans at all times and not deserving privacy.pearshaped34 wrote:I'm going to take a wild guess that speaking out on the issue of fans approaching and stalking them didn't work for them and I don't think it would for Deppy either. Which is why I think they don't bother speaking out about it, they know they'd be wasting their breath and the only thing that would change is they'd get abuse from trolls for being "ungrateful" to their fans. Why rock the boat when there is nothing to be gained?
Eh, I don't know. I don't think it's very respectful to disrupt someone's private dinner with friends. This isn't about going up to them in the street or something, I don't think there's anything wrong with that actually in most cases. But walking up to their table while they're having dinner with friends isn't the same as that. And I think a respectful fan would actually realise that it's not a good idea to talk to them in such a setting.tacitus wrote:People who go to their house are creepy stalkers, whereas most of the people who approach them in restaurants are just regular fans. People who go to their house will not listen to reason, whereas people who approach them are genuine fans and are generally extremely respectful.
I'm admittedly pessimistic but I don't believe (even a little bit) that all they have to do to make people stop is say stop so guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.tacitus wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:04 pmBut that's just it. You shouldn't equate the twopearshaped34 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:19 pm Yes because all Alfie and Zoe had to do right was say publicly how much they didn't like fans stalking their house and it stopped completely. Easy fix right?
I do think you are probably right that "most" fans would listen however the issue is most fans already know not to approach them in a restaurant or go to their house without them having to specifically say it. It's not those fans who are the big problem.
although maybe that's just bc i'm really optimistic lol
)Yeah, this really shows there's no easy fix to fans being creepy.alittledizzy wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:11 pm They actually have in the past been very clear on some things they wanted to stop - and it didn't make a bit of difference. I assume that's why they've gone the alternate route of just not calling attention to things. Because let's be real, if Dan and Phil said "Stop coming to our house." then all that would do for a lot of people that didn't previously know is tell them that the address is out there and if they look very hard (or sometimes, not hard at all) they too can find it.
A few embedded examples under the cut of them (... Phil) communicating things.
They do have that whole rarely-seen slounge full of the furniture from their last place. I wonder if they'll ditch that when they move again and go with all new stuff? Unless they continue to want to use familiar decor for a filming room.flarequake wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:20 pm Only thought I have on possibly moving is they’d pay a lot less in storing their stuff for a few months especially if a lot of furniture came with the duplex. It sounded like Dan’s bed didn’t and that plus things like his piano are huge, but maybe.
Definitely! At a conservative estimate, if they live somewhere relatively central, they’re likely to be paying £4000-£5000+ per month rent? That’s if it’s one large duplex 3 bed flat with a crazy ass floorpan - it would be more for 2 flats, if you subscribe to the 2 flat theory. £25k+ is a lot to pay for a flat that’s going to sit empty for 5 months (although they are millionaires, so....)flarequake wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:20 pm Only thought I have on possibly moving is they’d pay a lot less in storing their stuff for a few months especially if a lot of furniture came with the duplex. It sounded like Dan’s bed didn’t and that plus things like his piano are huge, but maybe.
someone else may have said the same thing, but i definitely made a post to this effect right after tour was announced*! i stand by my thinking, especially now we know that a loud oh the furniture in the living flat is rented with the apartment itself. i don't think they're moving now, but i think in april they'll either move their stuff into a house/flat they've bought, or they'll put things in storage. sure, storing an apartment full of stuff for 5 months would be expensive, but not as expensive as renting 2 flats they aren't even using. plus if they're getting rid of most of their old furniture, that's less storage space - or maybe they'll keep the work flat and just cram everything in.LtrllySusan wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:09 am I've been pretty bored the last days so I spent a lot of my time exploring tumblr and reading random phan comments.
I don't remember where I saw it, but someone was talking about how odd it would be if D&P were touring the world but paying rent for 5 months. Combined with the assumption that the current flat is not a forever home and that it might be a temporary place (renting furnished is generally not a long-term thing, is it?), how likely is it that they are moving at the moment? We know that they are busy with the tour prep, so it would be much easier for them to also be busy with something else. Also, since they moved in April last year, it could be that they have a 1 year lease on that place?
Especially if they do have 2 flats, it would make hiding the move a lot easier. Something something gaming streams, can someone with more talent for conspiracy theories tie together the loose ends?
I don't actually think that's unrealistic. In fact, I kind of think it's more realistic than paying rent on two flats for five months when they won't be there? Or maybe that's my low-income-person-bias talking, lmao. I do accept that what is logic to me may not be logic to them.DatCog wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:00 pmA dream scenario would be for them to purchase their forever home, move in early April and then get any renovations done while they're away touring so it's perfect when they return in September!
I think the filming flat is their storage. The reflection of the slounge made it look like it was full of stuff, maybe they didn't even unpack all of their old things.( The clutter could be the reason why they filmed truth bombs with their friends in their living apartment instead of the slounge.)DatCog wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:00 pm Perhaps they will drop the duplex (which must be the more expensive of the two, being higher spec/bigger/furnished) and just keep the filming flat.
Thank you, glad I'm not the only one thinking along these lines and would definitely be what I would do in their position! I just can't for the life of me imagine Capita£ester in particular throwing away tens of thousands of his hard-earned pounds on renting two empty properties.alittledizzy wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:23 pmI don't actually think that's unrealistic. In fact, I kind of think it's more realistic than paying rent on two flats for five months when they won't be there? Or maybe that's my low-income-person-bias talking, lmao. I do accept that what is logic to me may not be logic to them.DatCog wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:00 pmA dream scenario would be for them to purchase their forever home, move in early April and then get any renovations done while they're away touring so it's perfect when they return in September!
The only way I can see this working is if they axe the liveshows all together. After all, they are the only regular content rn that we are getting from the 'real' flat. If they set up the slounge a bit nicer, they can use that for collabs.malday wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:42 pm I had this thought before, but I can see them keep shooting their videos in their filming flat even after they moved in a forever home, to protect their privacy.
I haven't noticed any major changes to their Twitter activity. Phil is still very active and Dan might be a little less active but I believe him when he says he prefers instagram because I feel the same way. Sometimes Twitter can be overwhelming.confusedpanda wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:19 pm Ok, I need to ask a question. How many of you guys think Dan and Phil are being completely inactive on twitter? I’m not talking live shows because that’s a different story, mostly twitter. Because I’ve seen people complain that they aren’t as active as they were. And I just wanted to say that I don’t buy that? Phil tweets almost every single day. If he misses one day it’s far and few between from what I can see. And dan? Dan’s once gone 10 days without replying to fans on twitter. I can’t remember if that was 2016 or 2017 though but still. So I don’t get the whole “they’re inactive on twitter”.
And also do you guys think they simply don’t care about their audience anymore (regarding dropping weekly live shows)? Or do you think it’s just the matter of they’d like to do weekly but having to sort out tour stuff isn’t going in their favor? Personally I call the reasoning for no more weekly live shows because of tour a bit bull shit because they did live shows all thoughout 2015/2016 when planning all that shit. So I don’t get that logic.
But I’ll say this, they’re becoming more like most larger youtubers in the sense of tweeting. If they tweet every few days, then maybe they’ll reply maybe they won’t. Twitter isn’t their main platform they’re known for to begin with. And also same with live shows, not all larger youtubers do them weekly for whatever reasons. Maybe it’s because I follow larger youtubers and all but like this doesn’t seem like anything out of the ordinary to me?
I just made a post on tumblr about this... I still haven't seen the original twitter thing that sparked this, I probably should have read it before responding but it's a very Monday morning for me and I need more coffee before I plunge into something that will probably frustrate me.confusedpanda wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:19 pm Ok, I need to ask a question. How many of you guys think Dan and Phil are being completely inactive on twitter? I’m not talking live shows because that’s a different story, mostly twitter. Because I’ve seen people complain that they aren’t as active as they were. And I just wanted to say that I don’t buy that? Phil tweets almost every single day. If he misses one day it’s far and few between from what I can see. And dan? Dan’s once gone 10 days without replying to fans on twitter. I can’t remember if that was 2016 or 2017 though but still. So I don’t get the whole “they’re inactive on twitter”.
And also do you guys think they simply don’t care about their audience anymore (regarding dropping weekly live shows)? Or do you think it’s just the matter of they’d like to do weekly but having to sort out tour stuff isn’t going in their favor? Personally I call the reasoning for no more weekly live shows because of tour a bit odd because they did live shows all thoughout 2015/2016 when planning all that shit.But also at the same time, I get it. There’s no time.
But I’ll say this, they’re becoming more like most larger youtubers in the sense of tweeting. If they tweet every few days, then maybe they’ll reply maybe they won’t. Twitter isn’t their main platform they’re known for to begin with. And also same with live shows, not all larger youtubers do them weekly for whatever reasons. Maybe it’s because I follow larger youtubers and all but like this doesn’t seem like anything out of the ordinary to me?
