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Both videos made me laugh until I was dizzy. Loved them loved them loved them. They were by far the best videos from Deppy in ages. Bless Louise for the wonderful dynamic in both.

Agree that Phil was a little out of place in the 3 person collab and that it was due to both his persona and personality clashing with Dan and Louise. Every time Dan and Louise ventured into innuendo territory Phil physically brought out his cactus. As for not getting a word in edgewise he does seem like the type to wait for a pause in the conversation while Dan and Louise are comfortable jumping in and talking over each other casually. Nothing wrong with either approach but it was a little awkward at times.

The Dan and Louise collab was so so funny. Their personalities suit each other perfectly and not once in the half hour video did it get boring. Did have to pause a few times to let the secondhand embarrassment from the story subside but the 2 of them together are a killer combination. Douise should make a collab channel. Phan who?

Been out all day and finally got the chance to catch up. This thread moves at the speed of light. Brace yourselves for a slew of replies to topics that were relevant 8 pages ago.
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bedhead91 wrote: Also, unpopular opinion time, but I'm going to have to agree with what cora808 has said before that I've been getting vibes from Dan lately that he's maybe not actually bisexual, but gay, or bisexual but leaning more towards men. Just speculation though.
*pats empty spot for you next to me on the bench*
Any room on the bench for one more? Based on his recent comments of the past 2 years he at least has a preference for men.
wonderluust wrote:that self deprecating bit at the end tho, i feel like is genuine. super awks and louise seemed genuinely concerned, oh dan :/
Dan is self aware enough to know when he is a little over the top so him apologizing seemed like one of those jokes that's not really a joke but kind of a joke. It wasn't totally serious but it probably came from a place of self consciousness.
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Despite what she said in the DINOF video, I thought Louise looked quite lovely for dinner :D
Thought the same thing. She didn't look out of place at all. Was expecting Deppy in black tie attire and Louise in workout clothing from how she described it.
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danphil333 wrote:Its not like i want to dislike him.

i'm sorry i just had to

ok but (more) seriously, i enjoy reading your posts because it's interesting how you have such a different view of dan, i find him a lot more real and comfortable on his recent videos, especially this last collab with louise, it's weird that someone can watch the same thing and see something completely different
:lol: danphil333 it's always interesting to hear the opinion of someone who's not Dan but like trashqueen sometimes I wonder if we watched the same video.

He was so genuine especially in the video with Louise and it was nice to see. Really put a smile on my face.
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jaej wrote:no offense but you literally just described phil. add a creepy denial of understanding what's being said and you've described every video he's been in lately
like... that isn't a dan issue, it's a d+p issue
phil does it with a little wink dan rubs it in our faces thats what i dont like.
trashqueen wrote: edit: oh and the anime spon, how could i forget, it was scripted so it was obviously very dinofy but still, the 27 references to 'cute boys' point in the 'more comfortable being himself' direction to me
i agree about the cute boys and his sexuality and good for him..
but i feel like thats all there is to dan at this point
It's okay not to like Dan's personality. Everyone's opinion is different. But are you sure you haven't mixed them up? Dan is the one who makes cheeky winks and faces at the camera. Phil drops innuendos frequently and then pretends not to know what they mean which only makes them stand out more.

As for Dan's sexuality it's obvious that's not all there is to him. He's always had a sense of humor with a lot of sexual jokes and innuendos. The difference is now more of those jokes are directed toward men. You say you don't want to dislike him but you constantly act determined to hate him when you would probably praise Phil for doing or saying the same things. But then there would be the excuse that Phil is more subtle or less crude or whatever issue there is with Dan's personality that makes him annoy you so much more than Phil.
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cora808 wrote:
bedhead91 wrote: Also, unpopular opinion time, but I'm going to have to agree with what cora808 has said before that I've been getting vibes from Dan lately that he's maybe not actually bisexual, but gay, or bisexual but leaning more towards men. Just speculation though.
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Any room on the bench for one more? Based on his recent comments of the past 2 years he at least has a preference for men.
i wasn't going to say anything incase i was subconsciously erasing his bisexuality but this crossed my mind also
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I fell asleep really early (for my doing, I usually stay up entire nights... going to bed at sunrise is almost normal for me) so I'm late. Dumping thoughts on the videos here first, I'll read back and catch up after that. :D

D&P+Louise was good, but Phil was third wheeling for a good part of the video. Dan and Louise just have much better chemistry than Phil and Louise. But also Phil is just too polite to interrupt others it seems. Not that Dan and Louise are rude or anything, they're just very loud. And when a loud person meets another they tend to go hard. Phil is just very quiet and waits his turn. #relatable Also next time Phil makes a collab with literally anyone, someone needs to tie his hands back bECAUSE STOP WITH THE PROPS. At least it wasn't the damn chicken, but it's honestly a bit annoying how Phil just has props out for every video trying to derail the conversation or whatever he's doing? At least it got us Dan getting stabbed by the cactus and Louise being such a mum about it by picking the needles out. She loves fussing over Dan doesn't she? It's cute.

Other stuff:
- Phil you've proven this week that you're a control freak, you never go in without a plan.
- 'Did you suck the venom out?' 'Let's just say I did.' And then she nudges Dan suggestively. 'Jealous.' Ok Dan.
- Dan shoving his fist in his mouth (how??) and Louise looking at Phil like 'ARE YOU SEEING THIS?' but Phil is just not impressed anymore.
- The image of D&P having a serious discussion about whether they should take the cookies out of the bin and then going through the trash is hilarious.
- Dan can't count days for shit, you'll be gone for two solid months hon.
- Dan was sexually deprived or something, those jokes don't even count as innuendo's anymore. Just straight up dirty. Atta boy. ;)
- Dan is a furry. And that's definitely not a metaphor for something else.
- Dan complaining about his flat hair while the bump in his hair looks far worse.

How Dan-centred is this lol oops...

Dan + Louise collabs give me life tbh. Their chemistry is amazing, they seem like great friends. It's nice that Dan has kind of a friend of his own in Louise. A majority of his friends he seems to know through Phil. What ended my life was that speck of dust on the camera lense THE ENTIRE TIME. I also zoned out a lot because it was so long and I was tired. The beginning was very slow and the story really took a while to get interesting.

But it was really nice, Danecdotes are some of my fav DINOF videos and this was pretty much a collab version with a lot of glorious innuendos. Good stuff It mostly taught me that you should never go to a super fancy restaurant with Dan and Louise. Or Phil. Also that YouTubers might have the money, but not the class for a place like that... Next time just get pizza lol. (I really wouldn't appreciate my friend 'surprising' me with going to a fancy place like that. Nothing fun about having to pay 130 pounds for a meal you didn't really want.)

Dan sat on the other side which was nice because it showed of the cute dimple His voice sounded kinda low. Second puberty? Just a bit hoarse from talking so loudly in the other video if that was filmed first? Hoarse from other activities?

Sorry
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not quoting bc phone soz

i have a genuine question for everyone who thinks dan's gay or straight based on what he has implied through the years: what exactly should he has said for you to think that bisexual is the most logical explanation? can bisexuals ever win?

idk it's not that i don't see where you're coming from because his recent comments are mostly about men (i already explained like three times why i think that is so dw I'm not gonna bore you with that again) and i wouldn't be surprised if he was actually gay but to me bisexual still looks like the most logical option

so yeah genuinely curious

(i wrote this entire post without saying 'bi erasure', i'm betraying my brand™)
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trashqueen wrote:not quoting bc phone soz

i have a genuine question for everyone who thinks dan's gay or straight based on what he has implied through the years: what exactly should he has said for you to think that bisexual is the most logical explanation? can bisexuals ever win?

idk it's not that i don't see where you're coming from because his recent comments are mostly about men (i already explained like three times why i think that is so dw I'm not gonna bore you with that again) and i wouldn't be surprised if he was actually gay but to me bisexual still looks like the most logical option

so yeah genuinely curious

(i wrote this entire post without saying 'bi erasure', i'm betraying my brand™)
It's certainly not impossible that he's bi or even that he prefers women. It is notable that the dramatic uptick in his male attraction mentions is matched by a dramatic decrease in female attraction mentions.

The last female attraction mention was Claire Danes coupled with a Leonardo DiCaprio mention 2 sentences later. That was about 8 months ago. Since then it's been all or almost all male. He also arguably debunked his old crush on Jennifer Lawrence by alluding to it being something the internet blew out of proportion. Don't have the link to back that up as I don't have the archiving prowess of felucca or oqua.

In my anecdotal experience as a gay person with gay friends the trend of decreasing heterosexual mentions and increasing gay mentions is very common among gay people coming to terms with themselves or going public. This isn't to say definitively that Dan's gay or prefers men as that's something only he would know and not for the internet to decide. It's also totally possible he's compensating for his no homo phase by overstating his attraction to men.
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Dammit, woke up seeing 8 pages of discussion and Dan's new upload I totally want to bang my head against the wall but luckily it's a Saturday so I have nothing to do except writing essay and studying for exam and housecleaning, all good. :thumb:

Any way, regarding the new video I definitely have mixed feeling about it, as a total trash i love it, i love every second of it, even when they are being too loud or talk over each other. As I said about the Louise video, this video is also a train wreck in the best way. They both had their persona on, they bounced off quite nicely, even the awkwardness is entertaining in a surprising way. I love it's long and uncut. It's just sprinkleofglitter and danisnotonfire being sprinkleofglitter and danisnotonfire, they both did their best and it was such a simple video but so so good.

On the other hand as a serious viewer of youtube , this video has many flaws. For starter it's too long for a main channel video, it should be on the side channel or at lease edit it down to 10 mins. There were some redundant details, over explaining, and over reacting that should be cut out. Speaking of the over reacting, they were trying too hard sometimes, it looked ridiculous and not in a good way, in a "what are they doing way :wtf: ", I don't think the average viewers would appreciate it.

So strictly speaking 6/10 :tsk:
As a trash 11/10
Compare to other youtuber collabs 8/10 :thumb:

PS. can someone gimme a timestamp on kingsley's video please? I can't watch it, did he recorded the video from the bottom of a old well or something, the audio hurts my ears. For god's sake you have 3 million followers learn how to use a freaking mic!!! :facepalm:
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mysterylovescompany wrote:
Vivastian wrote:Hello forum.

I was suspicious about the pitching of the video, and so I went and compared the explosion in this video, and the explosion in another.

"Dan Reacts to His Childhood Videos"

"Our Awkward Fancy Meal"
Yes, I also noticed this! Also, all anyone in the comments could talk about was how deep Dan's voice sounded. Now, why the video's pitch has been fiddled with is the question ...
I didn't notice the pitch was different until I saw it mentioned on here and watched the video again. Its so perplexing, why would Dan adjust the pitch??
I don't know much about final cut pro (thats what D&P use to edit right?), is it possible he accidentally adjusted the pitch while editing and didn't notice before he uploaded? Or maybe he just decided he wanted to sound more like a man to compensate for his slightly more feminine mannerisms in the video :lol:
I hope he addresses it, just so my curiosity is sated
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Firstly: Midnight upload? Dan, you little git. No fair! Also: Screw the three of them, I'm now in trouble with the nurse warning 'cos hospital stuff...
because I have legit ripped four stitches in my shoulder.
and now she has to go find a Dr to come repair the damage these videos have done to me. Whoops.
Loved Storytime with Dan and Louise. (THERE's your podcast title. I'll give it to you for free!) It didn't feel like it was 30mins long, proably because I was laughing my head off throughout. Especially at the hotel room breakdown, Phil and the napkin, and Dan's backhanding the waiter then elbowing Louise in the tits combo.
spaceguitar wrote:Found a #problematic post:
http://phantasmogenetic.tumblr.com/post/142627209942
This is what i mean about the phandom romanticizing codependence. Sorry if anyone knows this person :?
They're either blind, or on something. Needs smacking round he head with the trashcan lid. Repeatedly.
kuensukki wrote:SO MUCH STAN WARS!!! What really frustrates me about the phandom is that we constantly have to pick on one or the other. Deppy love each other yet we are always fighting about who is better
What am I, the exception that proves the rule?! :lol: I'll gladly bang both their heads together. In this case, for the same reason. They both need to chill the fuck out and relax. Phil so he actually gets involved and enjoys himself instead of being sidelined, and Dan so he's not monopolising the conversation, or unintelligibly and deafeningly screeching. I'm glad Louise warned us last night, cause that was bloody loud from all three of them!!
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kuensukki wrote:
jhamba wrote:
danphil333 wrote:i just thing its a big part of his brand and his persona more than anything else. he plays it up and most of the time it feels dishonest to me like the innocent AP the cinnamon roll sunshine. A bit of truth and a lot of brand. Others hate the AP childish brand i hate the relatable meme self deprecating king dinof brand
I'll be honest, I don't think the part you hate is as much of a branding as you think it is. I think the dinof brand is more genuinely Dan, and I get why someone would dislike it (I am a lot like that brand sometimes, and honestly, a lot of people don't like me, but the ones who like me love me), and while it's played up, I think it's a genuine and significant part of his personality.

idk, maybe I'm just falling into his #relatable trap
I think DINOF is a very extreme, dramatic representation of Dan Howell and his beliefs. The main characteristics like insecurity, vulnerability, existentialism (to an extent), awkwardness with social interactions can be extended to his real life personality but they are extremes. His tendency to self-deprecate is also present in how he tries to hold is videos at a high regard but in terms of other areas of life he seems really confident sure of himself. DINOF was created for the masses, alot of his statement and opinions in old videos were made on things he had read or heard not exactly him. The #relatable portion of DINOF is the only one that seems forced to me. Dan Howell (the one in livestreams and vlogs, DITL) comes off as really subdued, yes he has this sarcastic humor/he's loud but its not as dramatic as DINOF. He is actually alot weirder than he lets on Like when I am watching a gaming video when he takes the back seat and just goes with the flow this is when I appreciate Dan best. The relaxed calm Dan that can slip in a joke that will have me dying. (ceramic bitch being the best recent example)

Same goes for Phil and AP. I see the word persona being throw around quite carelessly. Like this Louis video I thought I saw some geniune Phil Lester who under no structure crumbled. He tried to overcompensate his dread of where the conversation was going by bringing in inanimate objects like Poe and the stuffed dogs to lighten the mood. A part of me feels like he's stuck being the child entertainer. I want to look for any signs that he might want to break out because he certainly is struggling to incorporate the image into collabs. That being said AP really is an exaggeration of Phil. Yes it may be extreme but the small little qualities that make Phil Lester are in AP like his awkwardness, love for animals, mismatched socks and ,even (as we discovered recently) avoidance of any serious subjects including things like mortality. He really does like to keep topics positive and lighthearted and he does seem to be caught in some strange situations.

To sum up my feelings, they both have personas but their personas are essentially exaggerations of the qualities they possess.

This!

Sometimes we forget that the "personas" are based on something real to be able to work, and I too think they just both ham it up for the entertainment value. If they were to make a video in their everyday tone of voice and more Real™ situations as most people keep saying they wish they would, they would just subject themselves to some serious armchair psychology cause they would sound so sad and depressed in comparison.

That being said... poor Dan, he just wants to make some stupid meme jokes cause that's what he's always been into. It's not that deep, and it's not that weird as people make it to be tbh. How weird must it be if he shares the same sense of humor with lots of people that are from totally different cultural backgrounds? :lol:

I loved both videos!

NWW
I enjoyed watching Phil's face react so much to whatever Louise and Dan say. "Louise would you like a glute massage?" lmao. At the same time I feel bad cause Phil really really seemed to want to talk about his cactus/houseplants. I hope in the future he features in one of Louise's house/lifestyle videos, imagine him in one about gardening!

Awks meal video:
I honestly didn't feel like it was almost half an hour long it seemed shorter wtf. My theory for the change of pitch is that dan forgot to take off an audio later with a filter he put in to avoid having to hear their very high pitched laughter while editing. Basically love Louise and her friendship with Dan.

Love the fact that he made it sound like Phil was obviously the right choice to be The Man of the Table. Phil with his flowery cocktail and all that.

I wish they all hung out more often but I guess they have Quality Bants instead of Quantity Bants am i right?
On the other hand as a serious viewer of youtube , this video has many flaws. For starter it's too long for a main channel video, it should be on the side channel or at lease edit it down to 10 mins. There were some redundant details, over explaining, and over reacting that should be cut out. Speaking of the over reacting, they were trying too hard sometimes, it looked ridiculous and not in a good way, in a "what are they doing way :wtf: ", I don't think the average viewers would appreciate it.
I don't know if this is a good thing, but per the new changes in YT algorythm longer videos are actually encouraged for partnered content creators. They get more revenue if you convince your dedicated audience to watch atleast halfway thru. This is why for example, Zoella has been uploading 35 mins or more of almost raw vlog footage.
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mintsans wrote:Love the fact that he made it sound like Phil was obviously the right choice to be The Man of the Table. Phil with his flowery cocktail and all that.
Sounded to me like Daddy Phil usually takes the lead in situations like that, else it wouldn't be worth commenting on.
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So i wake up to two new videos, one of which was 30 minutes long. I really needed that after a stressful university deadline!

Some thoughts:
- I LOVED Dans video. I laughed pretty much through the entire thing, it may be because it completely reminds me of stuff that has happened to me and my friends, or something that would happen to us. (we're the socially awkward type)

- Louises video was also completely hilarious. I do agree that sometimes Phil seemed a bit out of place in the video, but I honestly think that's just because the 3 of them have such different ways of displaying awkwardness (Dan and Louise are quite loud and in-your-face, and Phil is more reserved and quiet...I tend to lean more towards Phil in that sense)

- 30 minute video?! I honestly believe that if this video was uploaded this time last year, it would have been between 5-10 minutes. I'm so happy that Dan is more comfortable uploading longer videos now. I don't think the video would have been as funny if it was shorter.



I can't wait for Phils video now...I'm sure they said that they'd filmed 4 videos, so where will the 4th one be uploaded?
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Lobster wrote:
mysterylovescompany wrote:
Vivastian wrote:Hello forum.

I was suspicious about the pitching of the video, and so I went and compared the explosion in this video, and the explosion in another.

"Dan Reacts to His Childhood Videos"

"Our Awkward Fancy Meal"
Yes, I also noticed this! Also, all anyone in the comments could talk about was how deep Dan's voice sounded. Now, why the video's pitch has been fiddled with is the question ...
I didn't notice the pitch was different until I saw it mentioned on here and watched the video again. Its so perplexing, why would Dan adjust the pitch??
I don't know much about final cut pro (thats what D&P use to edit right?), is it possible he accidentally adjusted the pitch while editing and didn't notice before he uploaded? Or maybe he just decided he wanted to sound more like a man to compensate for his slightly more feminine mannerisms in the video :lol:
I hope he addresses it, just so my curiosity is sated
I went to his channel, watched the first few seconds of his "channel trailer" (up until he says "Hello, Internet"), then clicked on the Louise collab, in which he says "Hello Internet" at the very beginning. Hearing the two "Hello Internet" greetings one after another, it was VERY obvious that the pitch had been modified. He sounds not only deeper, but a bit robotic or something. (To be honest though, I didn't notice it at all the first time I watched the video lol.)

And Vivastian, thanks for the comparison! The sound is clearly different in the two explosions, and if it was an attempt to make his own voice sound deeper, it seems strange that he would modify the explosion too. It seems like something was done to the whole video. It is mysterious indeed.
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wonderluust wrote:that self deprecating bit at the end tho, i feel like is genuine. super awks and louise seemed genuinely concerned, oh dan :/
Dan is self aware enough to know when he is a little over the top so him apologizing seemed like one of those jokes that's not really a joke but kind of a joke. It wasn't totally serious but it probably came from a place of self consciousness.
Yeah, of course he was joking, but I did feel like this was less of a joke than some of his self-deprecating jokes are. I didn't think much of it until he added the, “I’m just saying it just in case.” He sounded dead serious there.

It's okay, Dan. We like how you look and what you said.
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Dan: Sorry for myself. About how I look and what I said.
Louise: Okay?
Dan: Just saying that.
Louise: No, you don’t need to.
Dan: I’m just saying it just in case.
Louise: All right, well, my viewers are lovely….
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mintsans wrote:Love the fact that he made it sound like Phil was obviously the right choice to be The Man of the Table. Phil with his flowery cocktail and all that.
Sounded to me like Daddy Phil usually takes the lead in situations like that, else it wouldn't be worth commenting on.
YES. This was exactly what he seemed to be implying. It was like, "Can you believe how hilarious it was that they would think I was the alpha male omg what did they think Phil was then, my nephew or something??!???"
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oqua wrote:
Lobster wrote:
mysterylovescompany wrote:
Vivastian wrote:Hello forum.

I was suspicious about the pitching of the video, and so I went and compared the explosion in this video, and the explosion in another.

"Dan Reacts to His Childhood Videos"

"Our Awkward Fancy Meal"
Yes, I also noticed this! Also, all anyone in the comments could talk about was how deep Dan's voice sounded. Now, why the video's pitch has been fiddled with is the question ...
I didn't notice the pitch was different until I saw it mentioned on here and watched the video again. Its so perplexing, why would Dan adjust the pitch??
I don't know much about final cut pro (thats what D&P use to edit right?), is it possible he accidentally adjusted the pitch while editing and didn't notice before he uploaded? Or maybe he just decided he wanted to sound more like a man to compensate for his slightly more feminine mannerisms in the video :lol:
I hope he addresses it, just so my curiosity is sated
I went to his channel, watched the first few seconds of his "channel trailer" (up until he says "Hello, Internet"), then clicked on the Louise collab, in which he says "Hello Internet" at the very beginning. Hearing the two "Hello Internet" greetings one after another, it was VERY obvious that the pitch had been modified. He sounds not only deeper, but a bit robotic or something. (To be honest though, I didn't notice it at all the first time I watched the video lol.)

And Vivastian, thanks for the comparison! The sound is clearly different in the two explosions, and if it was an attempt to make his own voice sound deeper, it seems strange that he would modify the explosion too. It seems like something was done to the whole video. It is mysterious indeed.
I may be able to shed some light on this....the video may have been slightly compressed which can alter audio, or make it sound like the pitch has been changed.....whatever has been done, it's been done to the entire video. The fact that the explosion was also changed, makes me think that it wasn't deliberate. I don't really know how Final Cut Pro works, but I know that sometimes Apple software can do something you don't want it to without realising that it's done it. It's happened many times to me when using Logic Pro X for assignments and work in general :)
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awkward dinner:
I really enjoyed the video. Liked the format of it having no format, no structure, seemingly no script since Dan and Louise appeared to talk over eachother alot. Good on Louise for not letting Dan get away with talking over her, and taking over telling her parts without a fight, though it did start off that way, and then became chaos with them talking at the camera whilst filling in details about the happenings. As I watched, I felt as if two people sitting opposite me were telling a funny story, and I believe that is what they were aiming for, so..no complaints. Time flew and it was relaxed and lighthearted, and Dan and Louise, I think, have a good friendship.
NWW:
Watched after dinof, so the messy structure didn't bother me very much, I know the point was to have no set points, but as a whole it was somewhat choppy and there were sudden cuts, I think NWW would work better if it was an uninterrupted (or almost) flow, even with awkward pauses and silences, make it more natural. I wonder if this was filmed right after the dinof, as L+D were very much on the same wavelength.
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Honestly I don't even care what the panel is about, I'm just excited about it.
kuensukki wrote: I think DINOF is a very extreme, dramatic representation of Dan Howell and his beliefs. The main characteristics like insecurity, vulnerability, existentialism (to an extent), awkwardness with social interactions can be extended to his real life personality but they are extremes. His tendency to self-deprecate is also present in how he tries to hold is videos at a high regard but in terms of other areas of life he seems really confident sure of himself. DINOF was created for the masses, alot of his statement and opinions in old videos were made on things he had read or heard not exactly him. The #relatable portion of DINOF is the only one that seems forced to me. Dan Howell (the one in livestreams and vlogs, DITL) comes off as really subdued, yes he has this sarcastic humor/he's loud but its not as dramatic as DINOF. He is actually alot weirder than he lets on Like when I am watching a gaming video when he takes the back seat and just goes with the flow this is when I appreciate Dan best. The relaxed calm Dan that can slip in a joke that will have me dying. (ceramic bitch being the best recent example)

Same goes for Phil and AP. I see the word persona being throw around quite carelessly. Like this Louis video I thought I saw some geniune Phil Lester who under no structure crumbled. He tried to overcompensate his dread of where the conversation was going by bringing in inanimate objects like Poe and the stuffed dogs to lighten the mood. A part of me feels like he's stuck being the child entertainer. I want to look for any signs that he might want to break out because he certainly is struggling to incorporate the image into collabs. That being said AP really is an exaggeration of Phil. Yes it may be extreme but the small little qualities that make Phil Lester are in AP like his awkwardness, love for animals, mismatched socks and ,even (as we discovered recently) avoidance of any serious subjects including things like mortality. He really does like to keep topics positive and lighthearted and he does seem to be caught in some strange situations.

To sum up my feelings, they both have personas but their personas are essentially exaggerations of the qualities they possess.
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There's something niggling in the back of my head now about Hazel's vlog, now we know more about what was going on that night. Can't put my finger on what though.
Just an excuse to watch both vids more? Maybe.

Also: do you reckon they filmed Awkward Dinner or NWW first? My money's on Dan's. And are we getting a Phil/Louise too? Because I need that more than I thought I would when I assumed we'd have a 3-way collab on DINOF...



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I feel like they've been open enough about where they get ideas/inspiration from in the past, but having these two, who don't seem to have an upload schedule (although they certainly have done/toyed with it in the past) talking about THAT would be interesting. Also talking about audience and how they expect something to go over as opposed to the actual reaction... Fr both their individual channels AND D&PG. I'm genuinely interested to see recordings of this panel. Didn't think they'd be doing any panels, what with having 2 TATINOF performances at Playlist.

WHERE THE FUDGE IS DAN. I don't even have a clue anymore. Still at home? Lester holiday home? On a plane rn?
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IckleMissMayhem wrote:There's something niggling in the back of my head now about Hazel's vlog, now we know more about what was going on that night. Can't put my finger on what though.
Just an excuse to watch both vids more? Maybe.

Also: do you reckon they filmed Awkward Dinner or NWW first? My money's on Dan's. And are we getting a Phil/Louise too? Because I need that more than I thought I would when I assumed we'd have a 3-way collab on DINOF...
Yeah, they filmed definitely Dan's awkward dinner video first. We know this because they reference it in the NWW — Phil was supposed to eat the Nutella cookies while Dan and Louise filmed their video together.

I do think that someone mentioned there being four videos in total.

Also this tweet from Phil implies that he appears in at least one more, since he talks about filming videos, plural:
If you figure out what's niggling in the back of your head re: the Hazel vlog...do tell. ;)
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mintsans wrote:Love the fact that he made it sound like Phil was obviously the right choice to be The Man of the Table. Phil with his flowery cocktail and all that.
Sounded to me like Daddy Phil usually takes the lead in situations like that, else it wouldn't be worth commenting on.
YES. This was exactly what he seemed to be implying. It was like, "Can you believe how hilarious it was that they would think I was the alpha male omg what did they think Phil was then, my nephew or something??!???"
This actually makes more sense to me.
IckleMissMayhem wrote: Also: do you reckon they filmed Awkward Dinner or NWW first? My money's on Dan's. And are we getting a Phil/Louise too? Because I need that more than I thought I would when I assumed we'd have a 3-way collab on DINOF...
I do think that the video with Dan was recorded first, I even think Louise hinted at it in her NWW video. Like here are some cookies, eat them while we are busy filming, or something like that.
Pretty sure we are getting a Phil/Louise video, Phil already said that his vid wouldn't go up at the same time as Louise's. I think he doesn't want to have all the collab videos next to each other.
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I signed up a week ago or something and it's taken me this long to catch up on the threads. You are all brilliant. Personal highlights of your bants thus far are resting doge face + Dan Lester-gate.

I had to post this morning as woke up to the Dan + Louise collab and have literally no one irl to talk to about it. Oh my gosh I was actually crying with laughter. Like so many have said, it's the storytelling that gets me, although I could really relate to this one as I am pretty sure I have been to the restaurant in question for a work-related meal and the waiters full-on hated me too (vegan at a French restaurant is not a happy mix). If it is where i think it is I can confirm the waiters watch your EVERY move. Like, if you get up to go to the toilet someone springs up to show you the way and takes you right to the door. Hideous. Can anyone confirm if it was Galvin at Windows? (http://www.galvinatwindows.com) from the instas at the time I thought it was and their description of the place fit too.

One other thing... [offtopic]This song (and the reason for my username) makes me thing of you guys http://youtu.be/-PdKGDMhau4
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alittledizzy wrote:5:54 - "That was like, he's been going at it for half an hour, just the right place." okay Phil's expression here and the way he's laughing then starts to laugh harder and then it turns to that silent laugh. Ahhh I love Phil so much in this video, is anyone surprised? Come here you precious awkward man-giant and I will pet your cheeks fondly.
Forgot to mention this was my favorite part of NWW. Can't believe they left it in. Didn't think Dan could say anything more scandalous than 'force choke me dad' but he never disappoints.

And Phil's reaction was endearing and intriguingly sheepish.
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oqua wrote:Also this tweet from Phil implies that he appears in at least one more, since he talks about filming videos, plural:
If you figure out what's niggling in the back of your head re: the Hazel vlog...do tell. ;)
He mentions being covered in glitter, maybe it's a hint to his video with Louise. Color me intrigued
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oqua wrote:
IckleMissMayhem wrote:There's something niggling in the back of my head now about Hazel's vlog, now we know more about what was going on that night. Can't put my finger on what though.
Just an excuse to watch both vids more? Maybe.

Also: do you reckon they filmed Awkward Dinner or NWW first? My money's on Dan's. And are we getting a Phil/Louise too? Because I need that more than I thought I would when I assumed we'd have a 3-way collab on DINOF...
Yeah, they filmed definitely Dan's awkward dinner video first. We know this because they reference it in the NWW — Phil was supposed to eat the Nutella cookies while Dan and Louise filmed their video together.

I do think that someone mentioned there being four videos in total.

Also this tweet from Phil implies that he appears in at least one more, since he talks about filming videos, plural:
If you figure out what's niggling in the back of your head re: the Hazel vlog...do tell. ;)
I will, don't worry. It's more to do with the after-dinner part. Something just seems off. I remember saying something similar on t'other place when it appeared, maybe I need to go re-read that.

The idea that Louise (and Hazel) know Phil needs sugar fuel for videos makes me all warm inside. S'cute. Eating out of the bin, less so, but #disgustinglyrelatable I s'pose...! Just pop to the corner shop and get some more bikkits ffs!
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alittledizzy wrote:5:54 - "That was like, he's been going at it for half an hour, just the right place." okay Phil's expression here and the way he's laughing then starts to laugh harder and then it turns to that silent laugh. Ahhh I love Phil so much in this video, is anyone surprised? Come here you precious awkward man-giant and I will pet your cheeks fondly.
Forgot to mention this was my favorite part of NWW. Can't believe they left it in. Didn't think Dan could say anything more scandalous than 'force choke me dad' but he never disappoints.

And Phil's reaction was endearing and intriguingly sheepish.
I just wacthed that bit again, seeing as I hadn't really noticed Phil's reaction before, and you were right. His laugh there was super cute.
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IckleMissMayhem wrote:
mintsans wrote:Love the fact that he made it sound like Phil was obviously the right choice to be The Man of the Table. Phil with his flowery cocktail and all that.
Sounded to me like Daddy Phil usually takes the lead in situations like that, else it wouldn't be worth commenting on.
I think Dan just meant that Phil was the oldest in the group but still the waiter thought he was the one "in charge" (+ pretending that it was Louise' 16th birthday, so she was discarded for this role).

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litteronthebreeze wrote: Can anyone confirm if it was Galvin at Windows? (http://www.galvinatwindows.com) from the instas at the time I thought it was and their description of the place fit too.
Not sure it is because there's no "one-night stand" on the cocktail menu. However


also that is an expensive cocktail no wonder it cost 130 smackers
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