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litteronthebreeze wrote: Can anyone confirm if it was Galvin at Windows? (http://www.galvinatwindows.com) from the instas at the time I thought it was and their description of the place fit too.
Not sure it is because there's no "one-night stand" on the cocktail menu. However


also that is an expensive cocktail no wonder it cost 130 smackers


I watched Hazel's vlog and I am certain it is that place. I even think I sat at the same table. Maybe Dan and Louise had the one called 'Bloody Last Stand' and they just got it wrong. Wouldn't be surprised tbh.
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litteronthebreeze wrote:Can anyone confirm if it was Galvin at Windows? (http://www.galvinatwindows.com) from the instas at the time I thought it was and their description of the place fit too.
It seems so!

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Typical Dan to remember exactly what Phil had, and get his own drink wrong.

A "one night stand" is usually cognac, orange juice and something fizzy, so they could have had it. Maybe it's just not on their "Asian Inspired" cocktail menu.
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they often do make cocktails that aren't on the menu for people. idk if that kind of thing works at wherever they were, but most good bartenders can make a well known drink for a customer even if it isn't on the menu, as long as they have the ingredients
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akui wrote:On the other hand as a serious viewer of youtube , this video has many flaws. For starter it's too long for a main channel video, it should be on the side channel or at lease edit it down to 10 mins. There were some redundant details, over explaining, and over reacting that should be cut out. Speaking of the over reacting, they were trying too hard sometimes, it looked ridiculous and not in a good way, in a "what are they doing way :wtf: ", I don't think the average viewers would appreciate it.
I don't know if this is a good thing, but per the new changes in YT algorithm longer videos are actually encouraged for partnered content creators. They get more revenue if you convince your dedicated audience to watch atleast halfway thru. This is why for example, Zoella has been uploading 35 mins or more of almost raw vlog footage.
Well, yes, but I was coming from a perspective of the quality of the video, a creator should first and foremost consider if a video is good or not in general standard rather than if it fits the algorithm of youtube or not. That general standard meaning coming from both a viewer's perspective and a creator's perspective, considering aspects like the pacing of the video and audiences immersion. Which from that, Dan didn't think it through when he edited this video, there were too much redundancy as I said. Like they had first two minutes saying how long they haven't met, which was just unnecessary information for general viewers (trash like us love it of course), they might think "wtf they are on about, i want to hear the story NOW", and then next four minutes about how Louise doesn't like surprised and she had a meltdown at the hotel, Dan could've easily cut it down to 1-2 minutes just as the intro. Stuff like that.
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Two very random moments I noticed in Dan's video:

1. Did anyone else find it interesting how Dan and Louise totally glossed over what they ordered for dinner? I'm not sure if this was an attempt to keep the length down, since presumably there wasn't anything particularly interesting to be said about the entrees, or what. But I doubt they actually forgot what they ordered?

2. (14:45) I think Dan expected Louise to go along with his claim that they ate all the butter. This is probably the kind of white lie he and Phil tell all the time, because it's funny. I don't know, I just get the feeling that he's probably used to making a not-quite-true statement like that and having Phil just agree with him or even expand on it. But no, Louise was quick to correct him: they didn't eat all the butter, but that's by the by. Bless her, lol.
I just thought this little interaction was intriguing as I have long suspected that Dan and Phil are quite fond of embellishing their stories.
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jhamba wrote:they often do make cocktails that aren't on the menu for people. idk if that kind of thing works at wherever they were, but most good bartenders can make a well known drink for a customer even if it isn't on the menu, as long as they have the ingredients
True! Plus it's the kind of place that changes the menu all the time and it was three months ago.

I loved that Dan seemed genuinely so into the idea of someone arranging a meal for a friend just to do a nice thing and make them feel good.

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in dan's video when Louise's mind is going to a dark place, Dan's face and noise at 9:40 is giving me life. Also, that's quite a weird thing to imagine as a friend Louise. I find it strange her mind even went there. I get joking about a threesome with your friends but actually imagining it is not something I would do perso

From what I read on this thread I am in a club on my own but I didn't think Dan and Louise were particularly loud in both videos. and apart from the gaming channel where he screams sometimes (and that doesn't annoy me either ) I don't think Dan is that loud in general.

Agreed oqua, I am sure dan and phil embellish their stories for comedy purpose. I don't think it's a big deal as long as it's not straight up lying.
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oqua wrote:Two very random moments I noticed in Dan's video:

1. Did anyone else find it interesting how Dan and Louise totally glossed over what they ordered for dinner? I'm not sure if this was an attempt to keep the length down, since presumably there wasn't anything particularly interesting to be said about the entrees, or what. But I doubt they actually forgot what they ordered?

2. I think Dan expected Louise to go along with his claim that they ate all the butter. This is probably the kind of white lie he and Phil tell all the time, because it's funny. I don't know, I just get the feeling that he's probably used to making a not-quite-true statement like that and having Phil just agree with him or even expand on it. But no, Louise was quick to correct him: they didn't eat all the butter, just most of it. Bless her, lol.
I just thought this little interaction was intriguing as I have long suspected that Dan and Phil are quite fond of embellishing their stories.
I think they're fibbing a bit as to how much the bill actually was. Unless they only had one drink each, two at the absolute MOST. Hence glossing over the food.
So yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Dan was fibbing about the butter either, (and eating habits at other times, unless they both have metabolisms that most people can only dream of! :facepalm: ) She shut that one right the hell down though. Bless. :lol:

and somebody, or somebodies is fibbing about their height. Can't tell who though.
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ok there are like 8 new pages since last night so i want to dump my thoughts on dans video before i catch up with that
also wtf dan uploaded it at 1:30 am and i was about to fall asleep and wanted to get up early but i watched it anyway

first of all it's half an hour long and it doesn't even get boring at any point
i enjoyed it a lot and would say it was in a way better than louises NWW , as it had a common theme and it's just nice to see them be genuine friends and be embarassed :D

i was cringing so much at the story about phil and the napkin though
i hope he was really ok with them telling it! but i think he was, he has a good sense of humour and can laugh at himself after all

the only thing that was weird to me was dans voice??????????? something was different with it
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trashqueen wrote:not quoting bc phone soz

i have a genuine question for everyone who thinks dan's gay or straight based on what he has implied through the years: what exactly should he has said for you to think that bisexual is the most logical explanation? can bisexuals ever win?

idk it's not that i don't see where you're coming from because his recent comments are mostly about men (i already explained like three times why i think that is so dw I'm not gonna bore you with that again) and i wouldn't be surprised if he was actually gay but to me bisexual still looks like the most logical option

so yeah genuinely curious

(i wrote this entire post without saying 'bi erasure', i'm betraying my brand™)
It's certainly not impossible that he's bi or even that he prefers women. It is notable that the dramatic uptick in his male attraction mentions is matched by a dramatic decrease in female attraction mentions.

The last female attraction mention was Claire Danes coupled with a Leonardo DiCaprio mention 2 sentences later. That was about 8 months ago. Since then it's been all or almost all male. He also arguably debunked his old crush on Jennifer Lawrence by alluding to it being something the internet blew out of proportion. Don't have the link to back that up as I don't have the archiving prowess of felucca or oqua.

In my anecdotal experience as a gay person with gay friends the trend of decreasing heterosexual mentions and increasing gay mentions is very common among gay people coming to terms with themselves or going public. This isn't to say definitively that Dan's gay or prefers men as that's something only he would know and not for the internet to decide. It's also totally possible he's compensating for his no homo phase by overstating his attraction to men.
Okay, hear me out. I'm going to start off this post by stating that I myself am bisexual, and hate bisexual erasure with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. Also, this is all just my own speculation, based on my experiences with gay friends and the inexplicable, but usually accurate insight given to me by my gaydar. Disclaimer: I don't presume to think I actually know anything about Dan's sexuality or what he is like when he's not on camera. Speculation.

I agree with everything spider has said about the gradual decrease in female mentions over the years, and I will also argue that his mentions of female attraction have never been high to begin with, except when directly asked, or when he felt like he needed to assure the world of his heterosexuality in 2012.
I've never seen Dan have any sort of sexual chemistry with a woman on camera the way that Phil does. I've also never seen Dan be openly flirty with a woman on camera the way that Phil has been in the past (examples include Charli XCX, Mollie from the Saturdays, Meghan, actually every woman that Phil has ever collaborated with....Phil, you dog ;) ). He tends to take on a gentle and brotherly role with women. This might also have to do with the difference in personality between Dan and Phil, but I find it interesting that Dan doesn't seem to mind being a bit flirty with the guys he's collaborated with (Tyler Oakley, the Harries twins, even Connor Franta...I'm never going to forget that Dan called Connor 'daddy.') The last time I think I ever heard him talk about a woman in a specifically sexual way was in the Mortal Kombat gaming channel video in 2014, where he's talking about that creepy video game character with the four arms. You could chalk this down to the fact that's a feminist and doesn't want to sound offensive by talking about women in an openly sexual way. However, Phil is actually the more non-confrontational person of the duo and yet has no qualms about being a bit cheeky with Hazel or Louise, or talking about how he'd like to rub Cheryl Cole's face on his face.
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Didn't expect another video while I was asleep, especially because it was probably timed to be uploaded in accordance (is this the right word) to UK's time.

I got so many vibes from Dan, that I almost started vibrating myself.
UMM THAT SOUNDED SO WRONG I NOW REALIZED, I MEAN LIKE... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN I'M SORRY
Obviously this has been talked about as well in the last "howmany the f " pages but I just needed to say that I also got the gay... bi... attracted to males... feminine? or SOMETHING vibes. I started to notice it especially because of the furry mention and HOW he mentioned it and HOW it relates to what he has been saying for the last two-ish years.

To be honest, the more Dan talks about these things, the more I want Phil to open up a bit. Like, I like Dan and his "childishness" and making "silly mistakes" and saying "the wrong things" which makes us talk about Dan more (oh no, not this topic again). BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PHIL and there is not much on his behalf to talk about. :sobs:

I'm not going to get into other things because they have been murdered and dissected and thrown in the trash while I was asleep, but to whoever shared the pic of Dan's hairline in the past, THANK YOU, I just needed more reference, but now I can see that I was just being silly saying stuff that I had no idea about.

Sister Dan has shown me the light and told me to shut the f up

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bluebox-away wrote:I think buttergluttons is the new protein and I"m not okay with it. Also Dan must be in the US with now the time that he's tweeted this? Edit: nvm it's only 1am in London
It's showing up for me as being 24 minutes ago, it should be 1.08am UK time. Also I just realized my autocorrect on the last post turned protip into protein and I can't edit it and it's been quoted so now it's preserved forever
I Laughed while watching the videos but I crylaughed when I read this .
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bedhead91 wrote:Okay, hear me out. I'm going to start off this post by stating that I myself am bisexual, and hate bisexual erasure with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. Also, this is all just my own speculation, based on my experiences with gay friends and the inexplicable, but usually accurate insight given to me by my gaydar. Disclaimer: I don't presume to think I actually know anything about Dan's sexuality or what he is like when he's not on camera. Speculation.

This might also have to do with the difference in personality between Dan and Phil, but I find it interesting that Dan doesn't seem to mind being a bit flirty with the guys he's collaborated with (Tyler Oakley, the Harries twins, even Connor Franta...I'm never going to forget that Dan called Connor 'daddy.')
Your whole post.

Didn't want to bring up gaydar as it might have sounded like bi erasure but since bedhead91 went for it I will say mine was like a fucking siren during the video with the Harries twins.
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In this regard, Phil doesn't flirt with boys like he does with girls (like bedhead91 notes, even though I personally wouldn't qualify those comments as flirting on my standards) BUT at the same time he stated he's bisexual. Dan may consider his own past bisexuality claims as "attention seeking" and "being young", but when Phil said it, he was 24ish years old, so..yeah.

Moreover, we know of past crushes/close friends of Phil's -the underwear model and Charlie-, which confirms his bisexuality, but we shamelessly focus so so so much on Dan Phil is not even a topic :|
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I've got questions.
1)in Not Worth Watching, Phil said the word nosh (how do you spell it?) which means like devour? Is it a normal word use by the British or is it a northern thing or something.

2)Phil mention doing things with glitter. Does it literally mean glitter or because Louise internet name is sprinkleofglitter? :confused:

What do you guys think?
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Wahey caught up on the thread, already dumped my thoughts about the videos here so I just wanted to react to these from like 10 pages ago;
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felucca, divine keeper of Deppy records & bringer of rains during this drought has uploaded all the footage of the Jamaican trip they made in 2010.
This video mostly made me miss watching CTFxC... Back when everything was sunshine and rainbows, without brain cancer, fights, and a divorce. And back when Charles was still likable. I watched CTFxC when they went Jamaica, yet I started watching Deppy two years later. Dumbass me should've checked them out. Or maybe I did and didn't like them, I don't remember lol. But omg they were so smol, cute and shy It was obvious they weren't sure what to do with themselves, surrounded by bigger YouTubers at the time like Charles, Alli and Olga.

Alli's kayak couple comment and her bopping Dan on the nose when he was sleeping were such cute moments I remember in a Dan liveshow in 2012 people in the chat were asking him about which YouTubers he knew and when someone mentioned CTFxC, he said on the trip he was closer to Alli or something like that. Makes sense, Alli is only two years older than Dan I think. I'd actually love a Dan collab with Alli, I don't even know why or what it would be about but I'd love it. She could feed him drunk and play video games on camera. Alli is more extroverted than Dan but they're both loud, so it could work.
felucca wrote:Whoa. Maybe this is old news to some but I never realised that Charles Trippy the Jamaica guy was in the band We The Kings that Phil made a music video for, less than two months before going to Jamaica:



Huh.
I've noticed it before and it amused me. Charles wasn't in the band at the time this song was released or when the video was uploaded though, he joined We The Kings late 2011 as a (at the time temporary) replacement for their original bassist. Nice coincidence though :D
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swofro wrote:I've got questions.
1)in Not Worth Watching, Phil said the word nosh (how do you spell it?) which means like devour? Is it a normal word use by the British or is it a northern thing or something.
In the UK, "nosh" is a slang word for BJ
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bedhead91 wrote:Okay, hear me out. I'm going to start off this post by stating that I myself am bisexual, and hate bisexual erasure with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. Also, this is all just my own speculation, based on my experiences with gay friends and the inexplicable, but usually accurate insight given to me by my gaydar. Disclaimer: I don't presume to think I actually know anything about Dan's sexuality or what he is like when he's not on camera. Speculation.

This might also have to do with the difference in personality between Dan and Phil, but I find it interesting that Dan doesn't seem to mind being a bit flirty with the guys he's collaborated with (Tyler Oakley, the Harries twins, even Connor Franta...I'm never going to forget that Dan called Connor 'daddy.')
Your whole post.

Didn't want to bring up gaydar as it might have sounded like bi erasure but since bedhead91 went for it I will say mine was like a fucking siren during the video with the Harries twins.
Oh man, that video with the Harries twins.

The lust in Dan's eyes. Never forget.

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re: furry talk. i don't think at all that dan is a literal furry. i don't think he's a fursuit level furry. a tail buttplug level furry? maybe.

re: bisexuality. i don't really see sexual attraction aside from a few looksfrom them directed at anyone irl. dan seems nervous around males he doesn't know and makes the sort of jokes you could make with friends to cover it up and phil is overbearing and finds the need to touch every woman he's in a video with.
to me the increase in male attraction is because it's generally accepted that he likes women. he makes plenty of ambiguous comments which will be read as solely about women. the attraction to women is going to be accepted (minus biphobia, but i mean a 'coming out' process) but the attraction to men isn't, hence the influx of male mentions to prove the 'i like men' part. reaffirming the 'and women' part is kind of useless until the male part has been remotely accepted and not brushed off as joking if he's going down the route of hinting, not an explicit statement

re: personas ugh. of course they're both exaggerated parts of their real personalities, but phils seems more 2d (?) in that he's disproportionately exaggerating certain parts and it leaves him as a character who has to quickly dodge certain topics. i think dinof is more balanced in terms of displaying various attributes compared to recent ap

re: the nephew comment. wasn't he just exaggerating about how he was perceived as so masculine that it made phil seem like a child compared to him?

last thing... they said 4 videos, right? is someone getting 2, or will there be a louise gaming video?
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oqua wrote:
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bedhead91 wrote:Okay, hear me out. I'm going to start off this post by stating that I myself am bisexual, and hate bisexual erasure with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. Also, this is all just my own speculation, based on my experiences with gay friends and the inexplicable, but usually accurate insight given to me by my gaydar. Disclaimer: I don't presume to think I actually know anything about Dan's sexuality or what he is like when he's not on camera. Speculation.

This might also have to do with the difference in personality between Dan and Phil, but I find it interesting that Dan doesn't seem to mind being a bit flirty with the guys he's collaborated with (Tyler Oakley, the Harries twins, even Connor Franta...I'm never going to forget that Dan called Connor 'daddy.')
Your whole post.

Didn't want to bring up gaydar as it might have sounded like bi erasure but since bedhead91 went for it I will say mine was like a fucking siren during the video with the Harries twins.
Oh man, that video with the Harries twins.

The lust in Dan's eyes. Never forget.

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Dan is so palpably thirsty in that video that it's actually awkward to watch. He kept eyeing up the pair of them like a parched man in the desert that just stumbled across a well.
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bedhead91 wrote:
oqua wrote:
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bedhead91 wrote:Okay, hear me out. I'm going to start off this post by stating that I myself am bisexual, and hate bisexual erasure with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. Also, this is all just my own speculation, based on my experiences with gay friends and the inexplicable, but usually accurate insight given to me by my gaydar. Disclaimer: I don't presume to think I actually know anything about Dan's sexuality or what he is like when he's not on camera. Speculation.

This might also have to do with the difference in personality between Dan and Phil, but I find it interesting that Dan doesn't seem to mind being a bit flirty with the guys he's collaborated with (Tyler Oakley, the Harries twins, even Connor Franta...I'm never going to forget that Dan called Connor 'daddy.')
Your whole post.

Didn't want to bring up gaydar as it might have sounded like bi erasure but since bedhead91 went for it I will say mine was like a fucking siren during the video with the Harries twins.
Oh man, that video with the Harries twins.

The lust in Dan's eyes. Never forget.
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Dan is so palpably thirsty in that video that it's actually awkward to watch. He kept eyeing up the pair of them like a parched man in the desert that just stumbled across a well.
'I don't know whether they found that scary...or really friggin sexy.' never 4get
Well Dan and Phil are kinda twinning themselves so.... ....
But who the fuck am I kidding? I'm mostly just the rotting banana peel at the bottom of the phan trash can who genuinely gets excited over the thought of them snuggling in bed. Idgaf let a bitch live
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spaceminimalist wrote: i was cringing so much at the story about phil and the napkin though
i hope he was really ok with them telling it! but i think he was, he has a good sense of humour and can laugh at himself after all
Errrr

Phil actually already told the story once in his liveshow, so i don't think it's a problem for him.

I also don't think it's necessary for Dan and Louise to told the story again.

Btw didn't Phil said they and louise did four videos together?! Where are the other two?!
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swofro wrote:I've got questions.
1)in Not Worth Watching, Phil said the word nosh (how do you spell it?) which means like devour? Is it a normal word use by the British or is it a northern thing or something.
Oh god not again. Damn you Phil. Only time I've heard it used is as slang for a BJ. "Nosh [someone] off"
Which is disgusting, but you asked.
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felucca, divine keeper of Deppy records & bringer of rains during this drought has uploaded all the footage of the Jamaican trip they made in 2010.
This video mostly made me miss watching CTFxC... Back when everything was sunshine and rainbows, without brain cancer, fights, and a divorce. And back when Charles was still likable. I watched CTFxC when they went Jamaica, yet I started watching Deppy two years later. Dumbass me should've checked them out. Or maybe I did and didn't like them, I don't remember lol. But omg they were so smol, cute and shy It was obvious they weren't sure what to do with themselves, surrounded by bigger YouTubers at the time like Charles, Alli and Olga.

Alli's kayak couple comment and her bopping Dan on the nose when he was sleeping were such cute moments I remember in a Dan liveshow in 2012 people in the chat were asking him about which YouTubers he knew and when someone mentioned CTFxC, he said on the trip he was closer to Alli or something like that. Makes sense, Alli is only two years older than Dan I think. I'd actually love a Dan collab with Alli, I don't even know why or what it would be about but I'd love it. She could feed him drunk and play video games on camera. Alli is more extroverted than Dan but they're both loud, so it could work.
Never was a big CTFxC fan, but I do have much love and respect for Alli and how she's dealt with things life has thrown at her. And that video was über cute.
Dan doing sweet f.a. in the stern of the kayak though. Cheeky sod. And SO. Much. Curly. Hair.
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:o AHHH... ok... i just watched Louise's vid and thought hey, let's see, what idb has to say.. i have not been on here for a few days... and you guys are allready almost at the end of thread 5... :shock:

ok.. where to start.. .i might just read backwards

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on the topic of Dan flirting with men more in his videos, I don't think it is because he flirts with males more. I think it has to do with the personality of the people he collabed with. He did flirt with Tyler Oakley and the Harries twins but because they are massive flirts. Like it is their modus operandi, that's how they interact with people, they flirt with everyone and since it's with everyone it is not threatening because it's not a real "I am interested in you" flirt. I just think Dan is not a flirty person at all (on the contrary Phil is a lot). Look how he didn't respond AT ALL at Jennifer Lawrence or Sam Smith flirting with him. But he reacts positively to one kind of over the top flirty personality that makes him comfortable to flirt back for joke just like with Tyler and Jack Harries. (don't get me wrong, I do think he was attracted to Jack. But I don't think that's why he flirted)
I don't think he flirted with Connor. He was a bit intimidated (maybe has a slight crush on him) and just came off as awks. And in his other collabs he didn't flirt with the guys at all, even with Caspar and we know that he finds him attractive.
One other thing is that Dan hasn't collabed with any woman apart from Louise, Carrie and Cat (i think) and they don't flirt with him at all, so we don't know how he would respond.

Honestly I didn't get any gay vibes from those videos. Campy Dan was here strong on his channel but that's not really news and him saying he is not an alpha male is not really news either. He has acknowledged it several times. I don't even think there were male mentions that much?
If you’re attracted to somebody, you’ll want them to sniff you eventually - Dan
*Phil is turned on by Dan's brilliance* *they kiss* *they have sex in the microwave* - Oqua (actually Phil)
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