Dan & Phil Part 6: Choke Me Dad(dy)

[akui]

[offtopic]I am randomly watching Joe's vlog, apparently he is discussing with Caspar whether Caspar is a grower or a shower. Personally i would kill a person to see deppy having such a conversation no i won't yes i will[/offtopic]

[fakelights]

Here's the full, unedited picture of Phil in Cyprus.

apparently I named it "2014 cyprus fan stalker photo daddy phil" lmaoooo

lol that name
And here is the original tweet, apparently...

I'm not saying he's the brains of the operation... but he's the brains of the operation. Dan's just as smart imo but seems to prefer to expend his mental capacity on pondering the great questions of our universe... Phil's more 'don't really give a shit why we're here but while we are i'm getting that bank fam'

Agree Reminds me of that part on the Tipsy Talk video where Phil said if he met his clone he would make a youtube video with it and Hazel said that 'of course he would' and that he would cash him (?) lmao

[blueapple_x]

kuensukki, they have IRL Digital, which Martyn, Phil and Dan owns equal share, and they are all directors, Dan and Phil Production and Tatinof limitedowned by Deppy, Dan Howell limited which solely owned by Dan, and Phil has AmazingPhil limited. I would make most sense if DAPG is under DNP Production.

Did we ever find out what DNP Production was for? I vaguely remember (maybe I imagined it) us discussing on gigi that it could be for the tour dvd/video they're going to be releasing?

[Lurktacularr]

Edit - never knew details about that stalking thing. Good on Dan for refusing a pic with her. Fucking embarrassing, reminds me of that girl who vlogged the whole process of stalking them (too lazy to find a link). Those girls need to do less... so much less.

someone *vlogged* stalking them? oh dear.
(I mean I kinda wanna see that because I love me a good trainwreck, but mostly, )

Yeah some girl vlogged trying to find them when they were in America (I wanna say Chicago?) and they eventually met them at the airport when were on their way home.

Does anyone else remember this? I can't remember enough details to find it. Maybe she took it down... I would if I were her. Then again I wouldn't do it in the first place because I'm not batshit crazy

This is why I always find it laughable when people claim that it would be possible for either of them to be going on dates secretly/hiding a significant other...this fandom is full of the biggest stalkers I have ever encountered. They can't do anything without someone finding out. If the Phandom can find out the exact hotel rooms they stay in and pinpoint which country they are in from a picture of an insect, the prospect of 'secret girlfriends' seems pretty ludicrous to me.
Also, you guys are all good writers, I mean that seriously.

Have a few thumbs from me because yes. If they were never spotted out then fine, maybe its plausible. But they are, not infrequently at all, and not once in 7 years have we even had the vaguest whiff of a potential date or partner. I can sometimes see where people are coming from when they say its possible neither has had a relationship for 7 years (not that I ever find myself agreeing) but no dates or flings in that time? I smell bullshit.

I think we can all agree asexuality is out the window since Dan Howell is habitually thirsty.



fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

[akui]

kuensukki, they have IRL Digital, which Martyn, Phil and Dan owns equal share, and they are all directors, Dan and Phil Production and Tatinof limitedowned by Deppy, Dan Howell limited which solely owned by Dan, and Phil has AmazingPhil limited. I would make most sense if DAPG is under DNP Production.

Did we ever find out what DNP Production was for? I vaguely remember (maybe I imagined it) us discussing on gigi that it could be for the tour dvd/video they're going to be releasing?

It didn't say the nature of the business before the annual return. Tatinof limited and the dapp are too new dammit. But dan Howell limit and Phil limit are classified as television programming and broadcasting, which are the most strange thing ever. I checked people can do business that doesn't match their description of the nature of business, it's not against the rule.

This is why I always find it laughable when people claim that it would be possible for either of them to be going on dates secretly/hiding a significant other...this fandom is full of the biggest stalkers I have ever encountered. They can't do anything without someone finding out. If the Phandom can find out the exact hotel rooms they stay in and pinpoint which country they are in from a picture of an insect, the prospect of 'secret girlfriends' seems pretty ludicrous to me.
Also, you guys are all good writers, I mean that seriously.

What if they just hide it in plain sight? What if Dan is dating wirrow and Phil is dating brynoy?

[sweetmm]

kuensukki, they have IRL Digital, which Martyn, Phil and Dan owns equal share, and they are all directors, Dan and Phil Production and Tatinof limitedowned by Deppy, Dan Howell limited which solely owned by Dan, and Phil has AmazingPhil limited. I would make most sense if DAPG is under DNP Production.

Did we ever find out what DNP Production was for? I vaguely remember (maybe I imagined it) us discussing on gigi that it could be for the tour dvd/video they're going to be releasing?

We were thinking it was for the Tour video, they producing their own CDs instead of what Joe & Caspar did.

However with this new socialblade info, I would not be surprised they'll close DHL & APL and park all their YT, TV & Radio prod business under this later.

[fancybum]

Reminds me of that part on the Tipsy Talk video where Phil said if he met his clone he would make a youtube video with it and Hazel said that 'of course he would' and that he would cash him (?) lmao

"Cash in" meaning get profit out of it. The man knows how to make money that's for sure.

This has nothing to do with anything, but I just saw this on TomSka's tumblr and it's cute:

heh

[bluntedclaws]

I haven't finish reading the last 2 pages but I wanna say something.

The limit size you can use is 50 now, 50 and up, I'm gonna be blind trying to read those tiny letters.

smh

Seconded

[trashqueen]

What if they just hide it in plain sight? What if Dan is dating wirrow and Phil is dating brynoy?

honestly this makes a lot more sense than the secret relationships theory lol

[phamnotof]

[offtopic]I am randomly watching Joe's vlog, apparently he is discussing with Caspar whether Caspar is a grower or a shower. Personally i would kill a person to see deppy having such a conversation no i won't yes i will[/offtopic]

I mean, clearly, they're both both, but... Okay. Yeah. I might kill several persons. And their dogs. Which is a far worse crime, but fight me, I have no soul.

[jaej]

fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

yikes
personally i like to imagine that phil isn't a controlling, manipulative, borderline abuser but each to their own, keep working the daddy fantasies guys

[Lurktacularr]

fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

yikes
personally i like to imagine that phil isn't a controlling, manipulative, borderline abuser but each to their own, keep working the daddy fantasies guys

Hahaha what?? 0 to 100 real quick man

I was referring to when Dan has said Phil's suggested video ideas and/or encouraged him to post ones he's unsure of, run tweets by him etc because as I said... I wasn't being completely serious but you decided not to bold that bit it seems

[coffee pig]

Edit - never knew details about that stalking thing. Good on Dan for refusing a pic with her. Fucking embarrassing, reminds me of that girl who vlogged the whole process of stalking them (too lazy to find a link). Those girls need to do less... so much less.

someone *vlogged* stalking them? oh dear.
(I mean I kinda wanna see that because I love me a good trainwreck, but mostly, )

Yeah some girl vlogged trying to find them when they were in America (I wanna say Chicago?) and they eventually met them at the airport when were on their way home.

Does anyone else remember this? I can't remember enough details to find it. Maybe she took it down... I would if I were her. Then again I wouldn't do it in the first place because I'm not batshit crazy

This is why I always find it laughable when people claim that it would be possible for either of them to be going on dates secretly/hiding a significant other...this fandom is full of the biggest stalkers I have ever encountered. They can't do anything without someone finding out. If the Phandom can find out the exact hotel rooms they stay in and pinpoint which country they are in from a picture of an insect, the prospect of 'secret girlfriends' seems pretty ludicrous to me.
Also, you guys are all good writers, I mean that seriously.

Have a few thumbs from me because yes. If they were never spotted out then fine, maybe its plausible. But they are, not infrequently at all, and not once in 7 years have we even had the vaguest whiff of a potential date or partner. I can sometimes see where people are coming from when they say its possible neither has had a relationship for 7 years (not that I ever find myself agreeing) but no dates or flings in that time? I smell bullshit.

I think we can all agree asexuality is out the window since Dan Howell is habitually thirsty.

As much as 2016 Phil likes to project a sexless image, I think it's safe to say that asexuality is out of the window for him as well.



Thinking back, the only dating rumor that linked either of them to other people was the Dan/Lily Melrose thing, which turned out to completely fake.

[spaceguitar]

As much as 2016 Phil likes to project a sexless image, I think it's safe to say that asexuality is out of the window for him as well.



Thinking back, the only dating rumor that linked either of them to other people was the Dan/Lily Melrose thing, which turned out to completely fake.

I wouldn't be completely sure of that. I do think its vaguely surprising how Phil never seems to show attraction to anyone (celebs and stuff). When asked in an interview who his man crush was, he said Michael Cera (who is more of a funny option). I vaguely headcanon that Phil could be asexual, or more likely aromantic. Who knows really though. He could be on the spectrum somewhat.

[swofro]

All this corporate talk really leave me out of my depth, gasping for air. Just one teeny tiny question, is there any con(sequences) at all for deppy leaving channelflip? Will they get less opportunity for things or?

[jaej]

fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

yikes
personally i like to imagine that phil isn't a controlling, manipulative, borderline abuser but each to their own, keep working the daddy fantasies guys

Hahaha what?? 0 to 100 real quick man

I was referring to when Dan has said Phil's suggested video ideas and/or encouraged him to post ones he's unsure of, run tweets by him etc because as I said... I wasn't being completely serious but you decided not to bold that bit it seems

it's not really something to joke about ?? ngl this projected view that so many of you have of phil being in control of dan is like 50% of what puts me off him. tbh it's scary and i don't like people being worshipped for traits (that they may not even actually have) of being manipulative abusers under the guise of 'ahhh he's daddy af '


for dating things, phils had a couple, hasn't he? phil x alyssa, phil x charlie (not a couple but a strong rumour and the Twitter interactions were... inappropriate), phil x sarah-grace (more true than charlie but doesn't have the angst factor that people want. and wow another 16ish year old when he was in his 20s ) but dan hasn't really had any. though dan x cat was believed by a lot after the vlog together at the start of 2012. he didn't walk beside phil omg phan broke up cats a homewrecker

[fancy_nancy]

[offtopic]I am randomly watching Joe's vlog, apparently he is discussing with Caspar whether Caspar is a grower or a shower. Personally i would kill a person to see deppy having such a conversation no i won't yes i will[/offtopic]

I mean, clearly, they're both both, but... Okay. Yeah. I might kill several persons. And their dogs. Which is a far worse crime, but fight me, I have no soul.

if they were showers i think we would notice (you know, with dans extremely skinny jeans it would be hard not to tell )

[Lurktacularr]

fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

yikes
personally i like to imagine that phil isn't a controlling, manipulative, borderline abuser but each to their own, keep working the daddy fantasies guys

Hahaha what?? 0 to 100 real quick man

I was referring to when Dan has said Phil's suggested video ideas and/or encouraged him to post ones he's unsure of, run tweets by him etc because as I said... I wasn't being completely serious but you decided not to bold that bit it seems

it's not really something to joke about ?? ngl this projected view that so many of you have of phil being in control of dan is like 50% of what puts me off him. tbh it's scary and i don't like people being worshipped for traits (that they may not even actually have) of being manipulative abusers under the guise of 'ahhh he's daddy af '


for dating things, phils had a couple, hasn't he? phil x alyssa, phil x charlie (not a couple but a strong rumour and the Twitter interactions were... inappropriate), phil x sarah-grace (more true than charlie but doesn't have the angst factor that people want. and wow another 16ish year old when he was in his 20s ) but dan hasn't really had any. though dan x cat was believed by a lot after the vlog together at the start of 2012. he didn't walk beside phil omg phan broke up cats a homewrecker

I completely agree that being controlling is not something to romanticise just in the same vein as codependency. That isn't what I was playing on. I was playing on Dan being kind of all over the place at times (I'm Dan af but lets be real he is) and Phil giving him the support/guidance he often needs. Completely different, and completely fine to joke about imo.

Anyways, I think all those Phil dates are pre-Dan right? Also who's Sarah-Grace and please tell me she wasn't legit 16

[lilMango]

fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

yikes
personally i like to imagine that phil isn't a controlling, manipulative, borderline abuser but each to their own, keep working the daddy fantasies guys

Hahaha what?? 0 to 100 real quick man

I was referring to when Dan has said Phil's suggested video ideas and/or encouraged him to post ones he's unsure of, run tweets by him etc because as I said... I wasn't being completely serious but you decided not to bold that bit it seems

it's not really something to joke about ?? ngl this projected view that so many of you have of phil being in control of dan is like 50% of what puts me off him. tbh it's scary and i don't like people being worshipped for traits (that they may not even actually have) of being manipulative abusers under the guise of 'ahhh he's daddy af '

I don't mean to get involved but I don't think that's exactly what she was saying, I think she was alluding to the fact that Phil likes to be in control, and that he may try to help Dan out, but she didn't have any intention to give off the vibe that he might be abusive towards Dan in any way. It was a bit of an exaggerated joke, and I think that's generally harmless. Nobody here wants Phil to be completely controlling over Dan to the point where it's abusive.

edit: you beat me to it, haha glad to see we agree Lurktacularr

[trashqueen]

fakelights exactly. Lets be real, Phil is daddy/manager. Tells him which videos to make, gets a scan over tweets before they're posted, organises the tour. I'm not being completely serious but I mean... Phil Lester Dadager™

yikes
personally i like to imagine that phil isn't a controlling, manipulative, borderline abuser but each to their own, keep working the daddy fantasies guys

Hahaha what?? 0 to 100 real quick man

I was referring to when Dan has said Phil's suggested video ideas and/or encouraged him to post ones he's unsure of, run tweets by him etc because as I said... I wasn't being completely serious but you decided not to bold that bit it seems

it's not really something to joke about ?? ngl this projected view that so many of you have of phil being in control of dan is like 50% of what puts me off him. tbh it's scary and i don't like people being worshipped for traits (that they may not even actually have) of being manipulative abusers under the guise of 'ahhh he's daddy af '


for dating things, phils had a couple, hasn't he? phil x alyssa, phil x charlie (not a couple but a strong rumour and the Twitter interactions were... inappropriate), phil x sarah-grace (more true than charlie but doesn't have the angst factor that people want. and wow another 16ish year old when he was in his 20s ) but dan hasn't really had any. though dan x cat was believed by a lot after the vlog together at the start of 2012. he didn't walk beside phil omg phan broke up cats a homewrecker

I... what????????
friend chill no one has ever suggested anything like that seriously

at most people believe that phil is more in control of the business side of things, which isn't unfunded, and dan has admitted he runs his tweets and videos through phil before posting them, no one is suggesting that applies to anything outside of the business side of their lives

i think the fact that dan is heavily hinting at his sexuality meanwhile it looks like phil is very comfortable in his closet (thank u very much) and dan coming out/being more open puts him under the spotlight too is proof that they have a healthy not controlling relationship

[kuensukki]

kuensukki totally agree they're up to something and I wanna know what cos I feel like its gonna be some power couple gold. No chance is it random/unplanned that they've stuck DAPG under Dan's company and I wouldn't assume Phil's a passive by-stander in this arrangement.

I'm not saying he's the brains of the operation... but he's the brains of the operation. Dan's just as smart imo but seems to prefer to expend his mental capacity on pondering the great questions of our universe... Phil's more 'don't really give a shit why we're here but while we are i'm getting that bank fam'

Yes! I secretly love business mastermind phil just as much as I love copyright Phil, they gives us so much perspective on his need for..control. Also jaej why does everything always come back to abusive, manipulative Phil? Is it hard to accept that he might have been a mentor for Dan so Dan relies on his approval/direction? Approval that Dan might need to feel confident enough in his content so he always runs it by Phil. They're relationship seems pretty dang healthy to me, every partner in a relationship looks for approval and agreement when making a big decision and so running it by Phil or even Phil being behind all this isn't that far of a stretch. Also sugar daddy Phil has to keep Dan happy with all his Givenchy clothes and their plan to buy and house.... I joke (no i don't)

Seriously as much as I hate Phan the brand it has brought success and also helped them stay relevant enough to now be a top power couple. Now making their own company and putting everything under there would be a great next step. They would be intertwining their lives even more through doing that.

[blueapple_x]

for dating things, phils had a couple, hasn't he? phil x alyssa, phil x charlie (not a couple but a strong rumour and the Twitter interactions were... inappropriate), phil x sarah-grace (more true than charlie but doesn't have the angst factor that people want. and wow another 16ish year old when he was in his 20s ) but dan hasn't really had any. though dan x cat was believed by a lot after the vlog together at the start of 2012. he didn't walk beside phil omg phan broke up cats a homewrecker

Did I miss something? Who's Sarah-Grace?

[coffee pig]

As much as 2016 Phil likes to project a sexless image, I think it's safe to say that asexuality is out of the window for him as well.



Thinking back, the only dating rumor that linked either of them to other people was the Dan/Lily Melrose thing, which turned out to completely fake.

I wouldn't be completely sure of that. I do think its vaguely surprising how Phil never seems to show attraction to anyone (celebs and stuff). When asked in an interview who his man crush was, he said Michael Cera (who is more of a funny option). I vaguely headcanon that Phil could be asexual, or more likely aromantic. Who knows really though. He could be on the spectrum somewhat.

Phil being ace or grey-ace is an interesting theory, it might also explain Dan's perpetual dehydration if they are really dating. The thought of Phil being aromantic and Dan possibly having feelings for him is an angsty and painful one, I'm not sure if I want to dwell on that.

or dating things, phils had a couple, hasn't he? phil x alyssa, phil x charlie (not a couple but a strong rumour and the Twitter interactions were... inappropriate), phil x sarah-grace (more true than charlie but doesn't have the angst factor that people want. and wow another 16ish year old when he was in his 20s ) but dan hasn't really had any. though dan x cat was believed by a lot after the vlog together at the start of 2012. he didn't walk beside phil omg phan broke up cats a homewrecker

To clarify, I meant dating rumors about them since they met, as both the Alyssa and Charlie rumors were in pre-Dan times. I've never heard the Sarah-Grace rumor before, though, where did that come from? I don't believe that Charlie and Phil ever properly dated, I think they might have drunkenly hooked up or something and Charlie made it into a bigger deal than it was to be an angsty drama queen.
Um I dated a 22-year-old when I was 16 so while I am judging him a little I can't be too harsh

[alittledizzy]

for dating things, phils had a couple, hasn't he? phil x alyssa, phil x charlie (not a couple but a strong rumour and the Twitter interactions were... inappropriate), phil x sarah-grace (more true than charlie but doesn't have the angst factor that people want. and wow another 16ish year old when he was in his 20s ) but dan hasn't really had any. though dan x cat was believed by a lot after the vlog together at the start of 2012. he didn't walk beside phil omg phan broke up cats a homewrecker

Did I miss something? Who's Sarah-Grace?

He ran his collab channel pabloislove with Charlie and Sarah-Grace, but he and Sarah-Grace never met in real life. (I think they finally did in 2012, but Dan was also there.)

(Also, Sarah-Grace is the voice of Philippa in that one video.)

[daphenaxa]

I have a question, how does everyone knows Phil is the one ruling things behind the scene and organizing everything?? Like everyone says he is the one doing all the behind the scene work on the tour and stuff but do you have receipts? Where does this come from? Because apart from the pic of Phil filling the taxes, I don't think I have ever seen them Dan and Phil saying anything that would make me think that.