There goes that theory then! Must. Improve. Background. Knowledge...!fancybum wrote:Luke is CF, but Emma is MakerGen, Jack&Dean aren't claimed by anyone (but their new show is involved with FullScreen), and neither is Charlie or Ben. Hmm.IckleMissMayhem wrote:Interesting about R1. Maybe R1 want(ed?) to get rid of the other IT hosts (they're all CF peeps, no?), but keep for other projects, maybe they came as a set deal?
Ugh. We'll likely never know. Ditto the specifics in contracts.
Anonymousse wrote:I broke my own code (this is an everyday problem)Anonymousse wrote:Umm... So what DO they use the cacti for?
Is their ___ dungeon made out of cacti?
Edit: Am I blind or did we lose the "poof"
Oqua, where did the poof go =/
Don't take my coffeemug.
(I'm ever so slightly uncomfortable about the current topic =/)
I'd love a ls tonight/today.
I'm still calling it the #poofpocalypse though. Just fyi. I mean good point, well made!oqua wrote:Anonymousse wrote:I broke my own code (this is an everyday problem)Anonymousse wrote:Umm... So what DO they use the cacti for?
Is their ___ dungeon made out of cacti?
Edit: Am I blind or did we lose the "poof"
Oqua, where did the poof go =/
Don't take my coffeemug.
(I'm ever so slightly uncomfortable about the current topic =/)
I'd love a ls tonight/today.
- Moderator Action :
- Sorry for taking away the #poof emoticon without an explanation! I was going to make a post about it in the emoticon thread but I got sidetracked.
Anyway, basically concerns were raised over the fact that "poof" is a homophobic slur in certain dialects of English. Obviously here we use it to refer to "proof" as a nod to the Kiro56 hilarity, but the use of the term "poof" instead of "proof" is a bit of an inside joke, and if someone didn't read the threads on *another website* from a year ago, they wouldn't understand what it means. We didn't want to offend anyone who isn't aware of the Kiro saga, so until we get a formal FAQ set up where the history of the word's use on GG (and now IDB) is explained, I just thought it was best to disable it for the time being. All the other emoticons are safe, don't worry.
And obviously you can still use the term, since it clearly means "proof" when used in context, but when it's floating around as an emoticon the intended meaning is more obscure.
to be a furry isn't to be sexually attracted to non-human animals, though? that would be an overlap with beastiality, a completely different concept. pretty sure furries just want to be animals. they cannot, thus they enjoy roleplaying as them instead. future pets of Deppy's are (probably) safe. I took Dan's comment to be a joke play on Phil rubbing the toy shiba all over Louise, which could definitely qualify as furry sexuality.akui wrote:Your logic make sense but that doesn't meant mine doesn't, I didn't say they want to have sex with animals, I say I don't want to rule out any possibilities, whether they are real furries or not, and if a furry do happen to be sexually attracted to animals, would it be moral for them to own a pet is just a general question I wonder not specify to Dan and Phil.blueapple_x wrote: Hasn't Dan made enough jokes about furries in a subtle (but not really) "I'm making fun of this subculture" type of way? And based on urbandictionary's various definitions, being a furry doesn't automatically mean you want to have sex with an anthropomorphic animal/an animal. So if Dan really was a furry I think he would know that fact and wouldn't have made a joke about rubbing Shiba's all over his naked body to set back the furry community with that stereotype lol.
But let's not dwell on that, human are complicated creatures and Zootopia made all my friends furry.
)Yes, as Tom said MCN take a percentage of all your ad revenue, I remember not so long a go there was some drama going on in the gaming community about MCN take as high as 60% of a youtubers ad revenue. Some other income I would assume they mean any other activities they do that related to their youtube channel for example if a youtuber goes on a talk show to promote his youtube red series. Mostly MCN does is to help a channel grown and give them opportunities about their channel. For example helping a new youtuber developing strategies, boosting their visibility and help them improve the quality of their content. But what Tom does with the BBC 3 and Deppy does with R1 and book deal are more likely to be with flipside.fancybum wrote:Ooh look at this part of TomSka's script for an upcoming vlog about YT money:akui wrote: IDK but the fact Tom said himself in his vlog that he is having some legal problems, I inclined to think them leaving CF is the real thing, but yes, we can never know for sure unless CF remove them both from their website. (PJ is no longer on it i think?)
"and usually a percentage of all other income streams"??
'All other income' relating to YT (like spons) or literally all other income streams? How would that make sense? If everybody is jumping ship (lol 'everybody' meaning Dan & Tom at this point - when did PJ leave?), they must not be a great network to be involved with, or else they (bigger YTers) just outgrew what CF could do for them... I want to know what's happening behind the scenes!
Listen, I don't understand business, so prepare for ignorant speculating: but could Internet Takeover ending have anything to do with any of this? Like if D&P are looking to sever ties with old management, then ending a contract that maybe they're still involved with (the radio show) to cut them off would make sense. Then when everything is settled (like when Phil also severs ties), D&P could re-sign with R1 for a new show or whatever without other people getting their grubby undeserving hands all over their paychecks.
Or not? Probably not. I like conspiracy theories, sorry.
Yes to a live show today, I don't even care what time it is, unless I'm sleeping at the time, then I care. Some selfies would also be very welcome, I want one of Phil, but even better would be one of the both of them.fancybum wrote: Yes liveshow please. I'll laugh if they do it at the same time as the radio show, I love some harmless passive-aggression. (I think it would be better to get one out of the way before tour starts, no? Pretty soon they'll have too much going on as well as less reliable wifi). Or just give us more selfies, I don't ask for much.
Oh I see... Playing the long game were we(?) How many HOURS were you gonna go...
yes pls to a liveshow today! also my decision to pull an allnighter just got 2x worse because i know i'm gonna stay up and keep my fingers crossed for one. oh well it's motivation to stay up longerSquishPhan wrote: Yes to a live show today, I don't even care what time it is, unless I'm sleeping at the time, then I care. Some selfies would also be very welcome, I want one of Phil, but even better would be one of the both of them.
Truth.zvk wrote: all a girl needs is some slightly florida toasted phan and good old fashioned vacation anecdotes
Phil always sits like that, I have seen that pose in different vlogs. I would find other pictures but I'm on my tabletLobster wrote:Thank youakui wrote:
I just want to post this photo, for no particular reason.
. That's why it's under Dan himself - Phil is not "officially" involved, ChannelFlip can't do $hit about it.
That makes sense. So Phil will definitely move when his contract ends. Sad part is that they never talk about this so we woukd never know exactly what is happening. But thanks to Tomska for the infoLucet wrote:Few points on Dan being under his own network and leaving ChannelFlip:
1. Phil probably joined first or/and did not read well into the terms and conditions of the contract. I'm not sure about this, it might have been the second point, Dan being the biggest youtuber, that played the role of Dan getting his way and Phil sticking to a more standardised contract.
2. Dan being the biggest youtuber within that network probably had his last say on what the contract says. "You don't do this - I'm not joining". I wouldn't be surprised that it was the reason why Dan left and Phil is staying until the contract is probably up.
3. DanandPhilGAMES are under Dan because... money. As Dan left the network and Phil stayed, Dan claimed their gaming channel as his own intellectual property, so the gaming channel automatically went with Dan. More money in their pockets - no money for ChannelFlip
The boys are smart
Of course he will. It will be interesting to see how it all ends up. Will they keep their private channels under their own companies, or will they move everything they have to Dan and Phil productions ltd. Probably, the gaming channel will move to D&P productions and they will keep their private entities to themselvesmajitzu wrote:
That makes sense. So Phil will definitely move when his contract ends. Sad part is that they never talk about this so we woukd never know exactly what is happening. But thanks to Tomska for the info
more likely two good businessmen who know the business they're in pretty well.
If we presume dan and Tom are dealing with the same issues with ChannelFlip, it might be one of the reasons Dan had to stay longer than Phil in England and also why he seemed unsure when exactly he was leaving the country (or at least he made it seem like it in his last ls), maybe?akui wrote:IDK but the fact Tom said himself in his vlog that he is having some legal problems, I inclined to think them leaving CF is the real thing, but yes, we can never know for sure unless CF remove them both from their website. (PJ is no longer on it i think?)
I doubt that Dan has more say than Phil, cuz you know the "buy one get one" thing, plus Phil takes more spon, which means he doesn't necessarily make less money for channelflip. But I guess this is tour time and they don't want to be involved in this legal shit?Lucet wrote:Few points on Dan being under his own network and leaving ChannelFlip:
1. Phil probably joined first or/and did not read well into the terms and conditions of the contract. I'm not sure about this, it might have been the second point, Dan being the biggest youtuber, that played the role of Dan getting his way and Phil sticking to a more standardised contract.
2. Dan being the biggest youtuber within that network probably had his last say on what the contract says. "You don't do this - I'm not joining". I wouldn't be surprised that it was the reason why Dan left and Phil is staying until the contract is probably up.
3. DanandPhilGAMES are under Dan because... money. As Dan left the network and Phil stayed, Dan claimed their gaming channel as his own intellectual property, so the gaming channel automatically went with Dan. More money in their pockets - no money for ChannelFlip
The boys are smart
I think it's very possible.vincentian wrote: If we presume dan and Tom are dealing with the same issues with ChannelFlip, it might be one of the reasons Dan had to stay longer than Phil in England and also why he seemed unsure when exactly he was leaving the country (or at least he made it seem like it in his last ls), maybe?
I understand very little in legal / business matters (ashamed to be business school graduate oh well I'll blame it on international differences), but could these changes with network mean that Dan and Phil are planning to move temporary work in the US, using danhowell ltd ? Maybe launch their tour video/dvd/thing partly from there? Felix's network Revelmode as I understood was founded as a co-partnership with Disney’s Maker Studios (based in USA). So maybe have to be independent from CF (not being signed as their creators) to make that kind of partnership with them (or other agency/network) to launch the dvd thing. Sorry if I'm not making any sense.
As viewers and fans we see them as "buy one get one free", but in reality they still have their separate brands and it seems that they're not going to merge them anytime soon (or ever). It's kinda interesting, they together are a brand, then they separately are also two different brands. Brands within a brand (or vice-versa), haha. Phanception!akui wrote:
I doubt that Dan has more say than Phil, cuz you know the "buy one get one" thing, plus Phil takes more spon, which means he doesn't necessarily make less money for channelflip. But I guess this is tour time and they don't want to be involved in this legal shit?
So i'm more inclined to think Dan's contract was up and he didn't renew it and Phil's not up yet. Also DAPG went with Dan indicates more than possible that Phil will be leaving channelflip in the future.
Your avatar makes everything your said so sophisticated and bad ass. cheers to that.
I definitely think this could be a possibility, was even thinking this myself.vincentian wrote: If we presume dan and Tom are dealing with the same issues with ChannelFlip, it might be one of the reasons Dan had to stay longer than Phil in England and also why he seemed unsure when exactly he was leaving the country (or at least he made it seem like it in his last ls), maybe?
When he talked about not being sure when he'll leave i thought he knew exactly and just didn't want to let anything on for stalkers. He was talking about not doing a ls the next week, i assume because he had to pack for his departure the next day (or am i misremembering when he left?), and suddenly was flustered and sounded like he had almost said something he shouldn't - like his departure time.vincentian wrote: If we presume dan and Tom are dealing with the same issues with ChannelFlip, it might be one of the reasons Dan had to stay longer than Phil in England and also why he seemed unsure when exactly he was leaving the country (or at least he made it seem like it in his last ls), maybe?
