ETA: Of all the times I’d have liked them to do Instagram stories, this would have been it. I really want to know what they’re seeing/eating/thinking. Sigh.
rizzo wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:06 pm
I love so much that D&P are in Russia.
ETA: Of all the times I’d have liked them to do Instagram stories, this would have been it. I really want to know what they’re seeing/eating/thinking. Sigh.
Yeah, I would have liked to have seen some architectural photos from them, but it seems that is not going to happen. Apparently a fan who met them today said that Phil confirmed he is also on a social media break. Now up until now I haven’t really cared to speculate as I think that stepping away from social media is a healthy thing to do every once and awhile. I’ve just rolled my eyes at everyone guessing it has to do with being Russia, but now I’m wondering... obviously they chose to go to Moscow for their fans there, but perhaps they don’t want to promote the country through their social media either because of their personal morals or because they just don’t want to deal with any potential backlash/criticism from their larger fanbase. Basically just avoiding confrontation (but not from the Russian authorities or whatever nonsense people were worrying about). Or you know, they may just genuinely want a break.
I’ll tell you what I’m pretty sure they’re *not* doing: I don’t think they are filming a DITL there. Though I have been wondering where they might do that on tour and my bet is on Manila.
:06 - Dan's going to pillage us.
:25 - Dan talking about how he's done no laundry and will be wearing merch "for several videos."
:39 - tour spon then Rize spon.
1:53 - Phil says 'laddy ding dongs' - the brain mergining continues as planned.
2:30 - Meow bleep.
2:54 - "I wish I could drag you into the garbage." "Don't be mean, you've only got one Phil."
3:30 - Bob is touching the boob.
4:07 - Phil giggling over Dan saying "Mr. Sims."
5:17 - Dan and Phil leave Pancakes unspayed; Bob Barker is sad at them.
5:57 - "I have a notion, Mr. Howell."
6:00 - Dan sings "You have a notion / what is the theory" - mangled Buffy reference? Or reference to something else I'm unfamiliar with?
6:15 - Dan's first "when I was a teenager" flashback, talking about his Harry Potter cupboard.
6:45 - Phil out there plotting devan trysts complete with window sneaking.
7:58 - They edit out shifting all the rooms around.
8:15 - Dil and Tab's room is a "sensual relaxation paradise" according to Phil.
8:39 - Phil gets very excited over floating stairways.
8:53 - Phil fond reminiscing about getting his own room and picking out his green carpet. (Dan was not a fan.)
12:08 - Talking about going home for Christmas; Dan: "I have my own place, I've built my own life."
15:17 - Phil loves a high ceiling.
15:20 - Phil: "It's better than our b- it's better than our place."
15:26 - Phil says they don't have a jukebox, Dan looks two seconds away from whipping out his credit card and rectifying that. If Phil wants a fucking jukebox, Phil gets a fucking jukebox.
17:43 - Two bros chilling on a sofa one feet apart.
18:18 - "You don't just pull someone into your lair and tip them over." mmmm u sure bro. it seems like it worked on you.
19:58 - They bop to some s-pop.
20:09 - Phil's favorite dance move.
20:15 - Dan says to trust him, that spraying ketchup on someone totally works if you want to mess around. I do not trust him.
20:38 - That reacton to Tabitha is too real, I'm pretty sure Dan reverts to teenager again being caught messing around by his mom.
21:23 - Dan talks again about how awkward it is. He's definitely reliving some shit.
alittledizzy wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:49 pm
12:08 - Talking about going home for Christmas; Dan: "I have my own place, I've built my own life."
15:17 - Phil loves a high ceiling. 15:20 - Phil: "It's better than our b- it's better than our place."
15:26 - Phil says they don't have a jukebox, Dan looks two seconds away from whipping out his credit card and rectifying that. If Phil wants a fucking jukebox, Phil gets a fucking jukebox.
i noticed that part as well lol but i didn't wanna say anything in case i was wrong, but. we all know,,,, A Strong "B-"
i hope they're having a good time today! i kinda feel bad that a bunch of people stopped by to meet them while on break, but ik i shouldn't worry cause they're used to it. i'm just eeehhhh.... though it is good to know they're taking time for themselves before their show tomorrow (?)
Amiaw wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:46 pm
so it looks like they might just post a bunch of pics together as a highlight for us.
They do look very relaxed, which I'm glad and I hope it helps quiet down the worried side of phandom. However at this point I do wonder why this planned social media stop? I didn't really think it was because of Russia but it seems weird indeed.
Edit: to clarify my post, I don't mean in that they're not posting for anti lgbtq+ laws in Russia or anything like that, I just mean that it does seem like they specifically planned it for when they were there. It might as well be that they needed a break and this 2 days break is just convenient and in a beautiful place they've never been, it just seems scheduled for some reason. And I still think Dan's tweet sounds suspicious
Will probably never be over the BONCAS and the beauty of Phil Lester.
Aw looking at all the photos on @meetingphan after work and it’s nice to see that when they go sight seeing that their security and Marianne also go with them. Like a proper little tour family.
liola wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:51 pm
Edit: to clarify my post, I don't mean in that they're not posting for anti lgbtq+ laws in Russia or anything like that, I just mean that it does seem like they specifically planned it for when they were there. It might as well be that they needed a break and this 2 days break is just convenient and in a beautiful place they've never been, it just seems scheduled for some reason. And I still think Dan's tweet sounds suspicious
I didn't really have a strong opinion either way but now that Phil has sent a random scheduled tweet that is kind of his own way of announcing he's not on social media I think they are trying to say something without actually saying it....
I saw this tweet and I found it quite interesting that they both had different phones. Anyone have any theories why? Their iPhones (X and 8) both work abroad so wonder why they swapped them out!
missemma wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:29 pm
I saw this tweet and I found it quite interesting that they both had different phones. Anyone have any theories why? Their iPhones (X and 8) both work abroad so wonder why they swapped them out!
I'm thinking maybe they're using an old phone to take pictures with fans if they want to post some highlights from the tour and not have those pics mixed up with their personal ones? I have no clue, I wouldn't be able to recognize one iPhone from the other, they all look the same for me after the iPhone 3 tbh :mrgreen:
Will probably never be over the BONCAS and the beauty of Phil Lester.
missemma wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:29 pm
I saw this tweet and I found it quite interesting that they both had different phones. Anyone have any theories why? Their iPhones (X and 8) both work abroad so wonder why they swapped them out!
That's actually quite weird. If they wanted service the easiest way is to buy a russian sim card. The only thing I can think is that maybe it's not compatible with the newer iPhones
I think they aren't posting due to their phone plan. Most UK people have an EU roaming plan which means it's fine for those countries they have been to so far but Russia is probably not included. Sometimes the US is also included or they may get a US phone plan but for a few days in Russia why not go dark?
As to the other phones they could just be using them as cameras, they may have international phone plans, who knows? I know a lot of celebrities who are US and UK based seem to have two phones because switching would become a pain.
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Curiouser and curiouser. That makes sense though lilabet.
I watched the Sims for the third time today, this time with the kid and while I still noticed an uptick in restlessness with Phil at the very end, I think it begins when they are finished with the renovation and Dan asks if they should invite Evan over. Phil still gets excited about a few things, but for the most part it seems like he’s power through the end of a long work day. Not saying he wasn’t in to it, just that he’s tired, a bit sore from sitting, maybe hungry. They filmed at least one other gaming video that day (DragonCity). Thanks for the timestamps dizzy!
lilabet wrote:I think they aren't posting due to their phone plan. Most UK people have an EU roaming plan which means it's fine for those countries they have been to so far but Russia is probably not included. Sometimes the US is also included or they may get a US phone plan but for a few days in Russia why not go dark?
Yeah, it's probably this. I mean, they could afford to just get Russian sim cards or something but is it really necessary for just a few days? Probably not. I don't think there is anything suspicious or weird about it and it probably isn't because it's Russia. Yes, they have anti-LGBTQ laws and all but I don't see what that has to do with using social media. My money is on Russia not being covered by their phone plans.
lilabet wrote:I think they aren't posting due to their phone plan. Most UK people have an EU roaming plan which means it's fine for those countries they have been to so far but Russia is probably not included. Sometimes the US is also included or they may get a US phone plan but for a few days in Russia why not go dark?
Yeah, it's probably this. I mean, they could afford to just get Russian sim cards or something but is it really necessary for just a few days? Probably not. I don't think there is anything suspicious or weird about it and it probably isn't because it's Russia. Yes, they have anti-LGBTQ laws and all but I don't see what that has to do with using social media. My money is on Russia not being covered by their phone plans.
I also think it's something to do with their phone plans. I'm remembering one of Phil's videos where he got lost in Florida and couldn't call his parents because his phone didn't work there.
Phil's scheduled tweet and the Sims one were posted by something called "Twitter Ads Composer" but idk what that is.
lilabet wrote:I think they aren't posting due to their phone plan. Most UK people have an EU roaming plan which means it's fine for those countries they have been to so far but Russia is probably not included. Sometimes the US is also included or they may get a US phone plan but for a few days in Russia why not go dark?
Yeah, it's probably this. I mean, they could afford to just get Russian sim cards or something but is it really necessary for just a few days? Probably not. I don't think there is anything suspicious or weird about it and it probably isn't because it's Russia. Yes, they have anti-LGBTQ laws and all but I don't see what that has to do with using social media. My money is on Russia not being covered by their phone plans.
I also think it's something to do with their phone plans. I'm remembering one of Phil's videos where he got lost in Florida and couldn't call his parents because his phone didn't work there.
Phil's scheduled tweet and the Sims one were posted by something called "Twitter Ads Composer" but idk what that is.
It's an advertising feature on twitter mostly for business accounts, you can choose to schedule posts as promoted/sponsored tweets or just organic. It's a way for business accounts and social media to plan their posting schedule as a way to increase the use of advertising on twitter. I don't know how it works for verified accounts but it was rolled out for normal accounts around the same time as analytics i think, you just need a credit card
Will probably never be over the BONCAS and the beauty of Phil Lester.
Amiaw wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:46 pm
so it looks like they might just post a bunch of pics together as a highlight for us.
I don't really understand what the reason behind this is? What's the point of posting pictures with fans on Insta stories? Seems kinda random to me (and personally unnecessary as I've already seen all the photos).
lilabet wrote:I think they aren't posting due to their phone plan. Most UK people have an EU roaming plan which means it's fine for those countries they have been to so far but Russia is probably not included. Sometimes the US is also included or they may get a US phone plan but for a few days in Russia why not go dark?
Yeah, it's probably this. I mean, they could afford to just get Russian sim cards or something but is it really necessary for just a few days? Probably not. I don't think there is anything suspicious or weird about it and it probably isn't because it's Russia. Yes, they have anti-LGBTQ laws and all but I don't see what that has to do with using social media. My money is on Russia not being covered by their phone plans.
I also think it's something to do with their phone plans. I'm remembering one of Phil's videos where he got lost in Florida and couldn't call his parents because his phone didn't work there.
Oh, that makes sense! I was already thinking something like "Maybe I'm dumb but I don't get why their social media break would have anything to do with them being in Russia?". How would posting a picture of the Red Square or filming a short video of themselves in their hotel put them in any kind of danger or vulnerable spot or "promote" homophobia?
My first thought was actually that they just broke out their old phones so they could continue to stay away from social media, while still being able to take photos and all that
I don't think it's their phone plans. They got plenty of money and there's WiFi at the hotel for sure.
Can the border agents ask for your phone when you enter the country? I'm a lucky European so I don't deal with those things a lot, but I remember reading that US agents can ask to see what you have on your phone. If they have something on there that could be considered problematic (either in regards to LGBTQ or something completely else?), I can see why they would opt to leave all their files & accounts at home.
I think that they just didn't bring their laptops or phones with them and brought a burner phone. I've seen multiple articles advising people traveling to Russia to wipe their devices or just not to bring them. This is an article from the uk government about cyber security warnings for people going to the World Cup. https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/avoid ... oal-summer There were also warnings during the Sochi Olympics. Note: some articles are ridiculous and fear-mongering, like the one NBC published during the Olympics saying you will be hacked the second you turn on your phone in Russia, and it turned out to be lies because the reporter had immediately installed malware on his phone, lol.
starwillow wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:35 pm
I think that they just didn't bring their laptops or phones with them and brought a burner phone. I've seen multiple articles advising people traveling to Russia to wipe their devices or just not to bring them. This is an article from the uk government about cyber security warnings for people going to the World Cup. https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/avoid ... oal-summer There were also warnings during the Sochi Olympics. Note: some articles are ridiculous and fear-mongering, like the one NBC published during the Olympics saying you will be hacked the second you turn on your phone in Russia, and it turned out to be lies because the reporter had immediately installed malware on his phone, lol.
Yep. This is what I thought of straight away when Dan said about the social media break. Very respectful and very wise, imo.
yep, just came by to share this
definitely seems like cyber security is the reason for the social media break and the old phones. i don't doubt that they maybe thought a detox would be good anyway, but this seems to be a big factor. interesting that dan did the whole 'for no reason at all', akin to the bahamas tweet last year. glad you mentioned it @sparkle cause i'd been thinking the same thing. but what i'm saying is i wonder why dan was so vague about it instead of just being up front.
Maybe dnp have some sort of a business phone? I've no idea how that would work tho, but if it's cheaper to use, that might explain why Capita£ester has it.
OT: This is really OT, but I was with my friend last week when she bought a new phone, and we asked offers for new phone plans from 3 places. Every single time the seller asked "so, are you travelling somewhere this summer?". I guess they were getting ready to tell about EU roaming, and after my friend answered, "yes, to Russia", all of their faces dropped. It was kind of funny.
Also, as someone who's going to Russia this summer, I fully plan to take my phone with me. I'll use wifi whenever possible. Sounds really weird to me that they would take your phone away? It's 2018.
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