Dan and Phil Part 105: Gay 🧡

[missemma]

idk what I did for them to attack me like this??

guys i don't think i'm gonna make it through tour if they're gonna be like this the whole time

This selfie drew me straight back to IDB because I wanted to know who else was dead?!

[Levitating]

anyway, re: casuals possibly not caring for the dapg return - dnp very much gear their content towards their core fanbase. terrible influence is the best example of this - it's explicitly marketed to current and old fans of theirs. general public who?

That's what I'd assume, that it's gonna be for people who have been here for a while but they also said about how you can bring people who don't know them and they'll enjoy it because you don't need to know anything. Which kinda goes against that and is not what most people really want.

Re: casuals and tour - I now can connect the dots! I remember feeling a bit taken aback by Dan's eagerness to discuss 'where they will go from here'. Why the need to make executive decisions and implement structured plans when all is going so well?

But of course, they must also have noticed the potential for 1M views and its drop, and even if the tour is selling well, they were also careful to point out that non-phans will enjoy it. Both these things basically link to their desire to potentially increase their fanbase, rather than simply maintain it. Which makes total sense! It's nice to see people grown and have that mentality of constant growth!


It must feel rather risky to invest again in something that could make them grow, knowing how unreliable and merciless YouTube has been with other creators of their same/higher leverage (Try Guys and the other ones who wanted to move to a private platform etc)

Because it's so risky, I wonder if they develop plans on their own or if they do market research with an agency or wider team (Which one?)

[tinnie]

My sister just sent me screenshots of some people on twitter being pissy that the conspiracy theories submissions are for tour and not a video because not everyone gets to go on tour. Something about how it's "unfair" because it's not for a video. Like c'mon Getting to go to a tour is a privilege not a right that Dan and Phil are taking away from these people. What's next? They shouldn't be promoting it to not hurt people's feelings? Not sell tour exclusive merch there?

[Catallena]

so they're basically saying 'hey dnp you know those shows people are paying a ton of money to see? and how you've always taken so much pride in making those productions that you love performing? yeah don't bother with that just put zero effort in this time please and thanks'?

lmao. That's honestly disrespectful. I've seen it in kpop fandoms where people get upset about their faves performing exclusive songs at fanmeeting in Korea that are never released anywhere else (filming at concerts is usually strictly prohibited there) so I guess I shouldn't be surprised about seeing the same sentiment from some phannies. I sympathize with those unable to go see them, especially those who are simply not able to because of location, I truly do. And people have every right to voice disappointment. But having a bad attitude about it like that does bother me, it's not like Dan and Phil are not personally out to get you.

And hey they don't have to withhold all regular social media content to put in a glorified scrapbook like they had to do back in TATINOF era, so if they keep up with social media and some videos (without working themselves to death again of course) hopefully it will still be a fun era for everyone? Especially if they manage to film and release it somewhere again.

[Panda728]

Yeah, I completely understand being disappointed that you can't go, but being mad at Dan and Phil for it doesn't seem right to me. Like, how dare they.... promote their tour in a way that makes people want to see it??

[Catallena]

!!!

[Grey]

I had a smile on my face throughout that video. I love watching them be nostalgic and positive about their past — which probably bodes well for what I’ll think of their new show! And it WAS a really cool show especially given YouTubers weren’t doing stuff like that then.

[tinnie]

so they're basically saying 'hey dnp you know those shows people are paying a ton of money to see? and how you've always taken so much pride in making those productions that you love performing? yeah don't bother with that just put zero effort in this time please and thanks'?

lmao. That's honestly disrespectful. I've seen it in kpop fandoms where people get upset about their faves performing exclusive songs at fanmeeting in Korea that are never released anywhere else (filming at concerts is usually strictly prohibited there) so I guess I shouldn't be surprised about seeing the same sentiment from some phannies. I sympathize with those unable to go see them, especially those who are simply not able to because of location, I truly do. And people have every right to voice disappointment. But having a bad attitude about it like that does bother me, it's not like Dan and Phil are not personally out to get you.

And hey they don't have to withhold all regular social media content to put in a glorified scrapbook like they had to do back in TATINOF era, so if they keep up with social media and some videos (without working themselves to death again of course) hopefully it will still be a fun era for everyone? Especially if they manage to film and release it somewhere again.

Exactly. Also as someone from a small country that most artists never come to (though thankfully still in Europe so now as an adult with a job I have the opportunity to travel somewhere else) I never expect anyone to come here and completely understand why they wouldn't. I'd assume that people in similar countries, though disappointed, would be used to this and understand. They say nobody comes to those countries so why is it Dan and Phil they vent their disappointment on? Because they're more online than your average artist and people think if they push them hard enough they'll pack up the tour for 2 exclusive shows in Africa, Asia or Latin America? I don't think Dan and Phil have it out for anyone, but this is a business after all and between how many fans they can see they have in which part of the world, how difficult it would be to bring to some places, whether those places even want to book them and what the profit would be, they can't go everywhere and have it a good financial decision. In the newest video they mentioned probably losing money on the UK leg of TATINOF and they do it for the passion but they can't just do it for that.

But again disappointment and trying to incentivize them to come to certain countries is still different from whining about how people are disappointed if they hint at doing something and it's not for a video. Usually Phil always mentions something he's asking is for a video so when he didn't, I was suspicious. Real fans clocked that

The new video was so sweet. I love that they refuse to cringe, instead appreciate the times. And they're right, they set the bar high and I don't know who else would even come close.

[Grey]

Also- a thought on people being mad that D&P aren’t coming to their country:
With II, they made a miscalculation by putting the “TBA” locations in the original announcement and then ultimately not being able to secure some of those places. They are obviously aware that other countries exist and that they have an audience in other countries who would come - based on where they went or tried to go with II. My guess is that they have plans to try to take their show some less travelled-to (for stage show) places, but are being more cautious with announcing it this time to avoid getting people’s hopes up. I could be wrong and I totally understand the disappointment of not being able to go. But that’s my guess.

[Panda728]

Also- a thought on people being mad that D&P aren’t coming to their country:
With II, they made a miscalculation by putting the “TBA” locations in the original announcement and then ultimately not being able to secure some of those places. They are obviously aware that other countries exist and that they have an audience in other countries who would come - based on where they went or tried to go with II. My guess is that they have plans to try to take their show some less travelled-to (for stage show) places, but are being more cautious with announcing it this time to avoid getting people’s hopes up. I could be wrong and I totally understand the disappointment of not being able to go. But that’s my guess.

Dan has said on Twitter that they ARE trying to bring the tour to more regions, so yeah

[LAshleigh]

That was genuinely such a cute video. I had no right to feel so wholesome about their little splinge moment lmao.

I've never actually seen TATINOF before, I assumed it probably didn't age well but maybe I was wrong?? It definitely has that 2015 vibe but they're right, it isn't cringe imo.

[JLynne]

You know what I find crazy? I don't remember anyone pointing out Dan's signal for Phil to fix his hair on stage. Knowing us and how basically that whole show has been gif'ed, how did we miss that??

And Phil IMMEDIATELY recognized what Dan was trying to do there. Idk I just thought that was really cute

[Catallena]

I think that it has been long enough since TATINOF for it to have come out of the cringe phase into the genuine nostalgia era. I do still cringe a bit though, but I did back then too lol.

Definitely have never ever heard anyone about Dan signaling to Phil to fix his fringe. Can't believe nobody caught that lol.

[tinnie]

I'm pretty sure I watched TATINOF back when it came out on youtube because none of the stuff in the show was a surprise to me now that they reacted to it but I decided to rewatch it today. I wouldn't call it cringe but it's definitely over the top and exaggerated. Not in a bad way just strange to think about how it blends real stuff and made up stuff. Like where is the line between the real Dan and Phil and the characters of Dan and Phil in this show? I only have the official video to go by and I guess comparing it to the other shows would give me an answer but for example when they do the 7 second challenge, does Phil always lose so they can do all or nothing? In the official video he can't name enough breeds of dogs so he loses but the challenges are made up by the audience, right? What if Dan messes up any of the challenges?

Anyway, I never actually watched II *hides in shame* except for endlessly rewatching the singing bit so that's next. After the story of TATINOF that is. I'm pre-gaming hard.

[Note]

The invisible thread reference! 2024 is wild.

[literally_formless]

Is the invisible thread theory dnp-specific, or what is the history there? I thought it was a more general trope.

[Panda728]

Is the invisible thread theory dnp-specific, or what is the history there? I thought it was a more general trope.

I don't think it's dnp specific but I think a lot of people apply it to them

[Catallena]

:3

[Catallena]

No other video title could fill me with as much dread as this one.

But it's a funny madlibs thing, crisis averted. Another serious literary work as The Urge I couldn't handle, but this I have peace with.

[JLynne]

I'm obsessed. dnp create 3 stories that aren't explicitly sexual/romantic but have their self-named characters obsessed with each other/committed to dying beside each other. They refer to their characters as lovers. They call the stories "steamy."

They really are trying to boil the frog, huh? By the time they're posting, idk, freakin wedding rings on Instagram we won't even blink. Damn, what a year.

[tinnie]

This was such an old school style video like Phil used to do on his channel. Except now it's 100% gayer and includes some medieval Dan and Phil romance

[Catallena]

New AP video:



Happy to be done with this Bitlife series tbh.

And some stories from yesterday:

[tinnie]

Happy to be done with this Bitlife series tbh.

As much as I laughed at the end when everything was going wrong, I'll be glad to move on to something else. And I wonder if this change of background was just something he chose for these 3 vids or if that's now the new background and why.

[tinnie]

So since we still know nearly nothing about the tour less than 2 weeks away, I decided to ask chatGPT to give me ideas for TIT and some gave me a pretty good laugh so I'm sharing the results

1. "Terrible Advice" Live Segment
Concept: During the show, Dan and Phil could host a live advice segment where they hilariously respond to audience-submitted problems with intentionally bad advice.
Audience Interaction: Fans could submit their "life problems" via Twitter or on cards collected before the show, and Dan and Phil would improvise funny, exaggerated, and "terrible" solutions.

2. Interactive Storytelling
Concept: Create a live choose-your-own-adventure story, where Dan and Phil act out ridiculous scenarios and let the audience decide what happens next. Each decision could lead to a hilarious consequence, with audience polls or shoutouts determining the outcome.
Twist: The "terrible influence" theme could mean that every choice the audience makes leads to progressively more chaotic and funny situations.

3. "Terrible Talent Show"
Concept: Dan and Phil host a "Terrible Talent Show," where they showcase bizarre or funny talents submitted by their audience. They could invite a few audience members on stage to perform their unusual skills.
Example: Someone might showcase their strange ability to mimic sound effects, or attempt to juggle in a hilariously bad fashion. Dan and Phil would provide humorous commentary throughout.

4. "Bad Life Choices" Game Show
Concept: A live game show segment where Dan and Phil quiz each other (or selected audience members) on ridiculous, hypothetical life scenarios. They’d have to choose the “worst” possible option, staying on theme with being a “terrible influence.”
Example: "You can only eat one food for the rest of your life. What do you pick: raw potatoes, or nothing but chocolate syrup?"

5. Roast of Dan and Phil
Concept: Invite fans to submit their best (and worst) roasts of Dan and Phil. The duo reads them out loud on stage, reacting to the best burns with humor and self-deprecation.
Audience Engagement: This could involve a pre-show submission process, or a live reading of tweets sent in during the event.

6. "Terribly Influenced" Skits
Concept: Short, comedic skits where Dan and Phil act out scenes as their "terribly influenced" alter-egos, showcasing exaggerated versions of themselves making hilariously bad decisions.
Example: A skit where Dan tries to fix a broken appliance using only a YouTube tutorial, leading to complete disaster, or Phil attempting to follow life advice from the internet with chaotic results.

7. "Behind the Scenes" Gone Wrong
Concept: Show a funny behind-the-scenes video of Dan and Phil attempting to plan the tour, only for everything to go horribly wrong in the most exaggerated ways. They could narrate and comment on the absurdity live, making the audience feel part of the experience.
Execution: Include staged mishaps, such as bad choreography, ridiculous costume fittings, or over-the-top technical difficulties.

8. "Terrible TikTok Challenges"
Concept: A live recreation of viral TikTok challenges, with Dan and Phil purposefully executing them in hilariously bad ways. Think of it as a parody of internet trends gone wrong.
Audience Engagement: The audience can vote on which TikTok trend they want to see Dan and Phil try (and fail at) live on stage.

9. "Disastrous DIY"
Concept: Dan and Phil attempt a live DIY project on stage, such as crafting or cooking. But in keeping with the "terrible influence" theme, everything goes comically wrong, with hilarious results.
Examples: A failed attempt at baking cupcakes that turns into a mess, or trying to assemble furniture with confusing instructions.

10. Audience Confessionals: "Terrible Influences" Edition
Concept: Create a segment where audience members can submit their own stories about the most "terrible influence" moments they’ve had because of Dan and Phil.
Execution: Dan and Phil would read these aloud and react live, laughing along with the audience as they hear about pranks, misadventures, or other funny situations their fans have found themselves in thanks to their influence.

11. "Phil vs. Dan: Terrible Influence Showdown"
Concept: Throughout the show, Dan and Phil compete in various ridiculous challenges to determine who is the "better" terrible influence. The winner gets crowned the "Ultimate Terrible Influence" at the end of the show.
Challenges: These could range from a chaotic trivia quiz, ridiculous physical challenges, or even a live-action version of their famous internet games.

12. Live "Draw Phil Naked" Redux
Concept: A live version of the iconic "Draw Phil Naked" segment, where Dan and Phil (and possibly the audience) attempt to draw each other with terrible results.
Interactive Twist: Dan and Phil could invite audience members on stage to join the drawing fun, or project selected fan art from social media on the big screen to react to in real-time.

5 and 6 I could see as a reality, 9 is also very on brand but I didn't expect chatgpt to pull out 12 out of the history

[Catallena]

Dan posted this to Instastories but deleted it later: